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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Ground connection point locations

OK so all the funny business gonig on with my 2000 PSD has me thinking it is a grounding problem.

Where are they? Foun done in the engine compartment next to the fuse box on the inner fender. I magine there are some behind the foot well kick panels.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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What kind of "funny business" do you have w/ your truck?

Maybe something common and you won't have to go hunting grounds.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Funny business?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Ok like coming back to the truck an hour later and the vent fan is running. Keys are in my pocket and it wasn't running when I got out.

Get in crank it up, ABS light and air bag warning are on with faint dinging from the dash. shut the truck off and crank back up just ABS light on. Next time everything is good.

This weekend cruising to Baton Rouge to race truck would die on the interstate and then jump back to life a second later. (wierd).
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Possibly could be GEM related.
The windshields are prone to leak on these trucks and can cause issues w/ the GEM.
Look under the dash behind the fuse box for moisture or evidence of water.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 12ozd
Possibly could be GEM related.
The windshields are prone to leak on these trucks and can cause issues w/ the GEM.
Look under the dash behind the fuse box for moisture or evidence of water.
What this guy said.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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It has been rining like a **** (see weather channel for south Mississippi)
 
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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Well got up under the fuse panel and it's all dry as a bone. Plus I would not know what a GEM looked like if it bit me on the nose. General Electronic Module. I work with an ex Ford electrical engineer maybe I'll get him to come point it out later.
Didn't find anything loose or getting wet.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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What year is your truck? The 99-01 have a GEM (Generic Electronic Module) the 02-03 have a VSM (Vehicle Security Module) The problem that you are describing sound like one of those and not a grounding issue.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Well got up under the fuse panel and it's all dry as a bone. Plus I would not know what a GEM looked like if it bit me on the nose. General Electronic Module. I work with an ex Ford electrical engineer maybe I'll get him to come point it out later.
Didn't find anything loose or getting wet.
The 99-01 GEM is on the back of the fuse panel. Dunno about 02-03.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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in my original post I put 2000 PSD.

GEM looks like a "Black Box" ? they are all black box like things.
 
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Originally Posted by Joe_914
in my original post I put 2000 PSD.

GEM looks like a "Black Box" ? they are all black box like things.
Yes, black box on the back of the fuse panel inside the cab.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Well I found the box that must be a GEM it is connected to the fire wall and on the engine side there are big huge connectors with all the harness wires going in .
I did find most of the ground wires and most were corroded. passenger side under truck frame to cab strap. then inside both foot well kick panels. Engine side cowl both sides. the passenger side goes to the cylinder head.(interesting) and very corroded, Two by the passenger battery on the fender, one between the fuse panel and fender on drivers side. I'll go for a drive Friday and see if it dies again.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I'm hunting my grounds too - can you give me a little more description to find these:
1. passenger side under truck frame to cab strap.

2. Inside both foot well kick panels.

3. Engine side cowl both sides. the passenger side goes to the cylinder head.(interesting)
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Don't know if it fixed anything but it was free and easy and needed to be done.

Braided ground straps are 3/8" wide and connect across resilient mounts. (engine mount, and frame bushings).

Passenger cylinder head on the back has a 1/2" headed bolt securing the strap and the other end on the fire wall has the 5/16 head bolt.

The ones inside the kick panels are just black wires on terminal rings bolted with 5/16" headed bolts to the chassis.
 
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