Why wont this thing start?
I am not sure if your fuel pressure is OK. 25 psi is too low, but the spec calls for 35-40 psi while idling. Not sure what it's supposed to be while cranking.
Looks you have a wiring nightmare on your hands too.
And guessing from the codes you've gotten I would suspect the distributor, rebuild or replace with a known good unit for testing. Then the fuel sock filter on the intank fuel pump should be replaced just because.
I'll go get another read on the fuel pressure to see where it's at while running..
Is there any way to test the TPS and IAC before we go buy new ones? Do any of the codes listed point to those items?
What codes make you think that the distributor is faulty? We were able to get the timing in and it seemed to keep. We set it at 10 degrees, not sure what it's actually supposed to be at.
Is there a resource that will tell me the meaning of the codes? I will search for one right now.
Thanks again you guys, I feel like the puzzle pieces are coming together.
I think code 21 pointed me to the distributor. The stator went bad on my 1990 Bronco 5.0L engine, I had a heck of a time troubleshooting it. Finally just rebuilt the whole thing.
Ok, so here are all the codes with their meanings..not sure what some of the lingo means so maybe you guys can help me out..
Code--KOEO--CM
14------------CM:Two or more successive erratic Profile Ignition Pickup (PIP) pulses occurred, resulting in a possible engine miss or stall. (well duh)
21----KOEO-----:ECT out of self test range 0.3 to 3.7 volts. (is this a temp sensor? Not sure where it is.)
31------------CM:PFE or EVP circuit has intermittently failed below minimum voltage of 0.24 volts. (PFE or EVP, pressure feedback EGR, but how will it affect the engine? Not sure what EVP is, not sure where these are located..near the EGR I suppose)
41------------CM:HEGO sensor circuit indicates system lean (right side)(Not sure where this sensor is located and if it is the sensor/wiring that is bad or an actual lean condition).
51------------CM:ECT sensor signal is greater than the Self-Test maximum of 4.6 volts. (thinking that this sensor is either disconnected or totally bad. Anyone know where it's located?)
63------------CM:TPS circuit has intermittently failed below minimum 0.6 volts(I'm going to try and rig up the wiring on this and get some solid connections and see if it keeps giving codes)
81----KOEO------:Air management 2 circuit failure (AM2/TAD)(not sure where this is).
82---------------:Air management 1 circuit failure (AM1/TAB)(this shows up under the list as a KOER code only, but it was grouped in with the KOEO codes that I read from the EEC)
84----KOEO------:EGR Vacuum Solenoid circuit failure(I can probably find out what the vacuum solenoid is, but, like most of the others, I'm not sure)
85----KOEO------:Canister Purge Solenoid circuit failure(not sure about the location of this).
95----KOEO---CM:Fuel pump secondary circuit failure. The EEC senses infinite resistance to ground from the fuel pump on the Fuel Pump Monitor circuit(perhaps this is part of the reason why we have low fuel pressure, what should we look for to fix this?).
As always, thanks a ton for any help anyone can supply!
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I'm not sure how to troubleshoot the distributor, code 14, do you have a known good one to switch with?
You should have the Ignition fuse link 20 GA Blue and it has a red wire with a light green stripe at both ends of the 20GA blue fuse link.
Also you should have the Heated O2 fuse link there and it is also a 20GA blue fuse link with a Gray wire with a yellow stripe wire at each end.
There may be two more fuse links there also and one would have a big yellow wire at each end and the other would have a black wire with a orange stripe wire at each end.
I have not found out yet what these other two would be for yet.
I'm not sure how to troubleshoot the distributor, code 14, do you have a known good one to switch with?
No, we don't have another distributor..I figured that code 14 was being caused be all the poor wiring and general stalling out that's been happening.
You should have the Ignition fuse link 20 GA Blue and it has a red wire with a light green stripe at both ends of the 20GA blue fuse link.
Also you should have the Heated O2 fuse link there and it is also a 20GA blue fuse link with a Gray wire with a yellow stripe wire at each end.
There may be two more fuse links there also and one would have a big yellow wire at each end and the other would have a black wire with a orange stripe wire at each end.
I have not found out yet what these other two would be for yet.
When you say you couldn't find out what the other 2 would be for are you referring to the image I uploaded and labeled? When we bridged those together the ignition started working again. Before if you tried to start with the ignition, it would turn over but not fire. We had to turn the key to run and then press a starter button that someone had hardwired in. So, the white with 2 blue stripes and the red are not supposed to be linked? They were connected before..the insulation of the blue wire between the two black boxes was just barely holing them together, the wire itself was totally separated.
I just ran a new wire to the in-line fuel pump and re-wired the in-tank pump. They had the pink/black and the orange wires spliced together for the in-tank pump. So I grounded the orange and wired the pink/black directly to the brown 12v out wire on the FP Relay.
When I hard wired the in-tank pump I couldn't hear or feel it running. Is it noticeable when it kicks on if you're back there? Now that it's wired right we still don't have any increase in the fuel pressure so I think it has given up the ghost. However, we are running about 36lbs at idle..is that possible without the in-tank pump operating? And if it is, can you get away without it?
Also, are the yellow and black wires running out of the tank for the gas gauge?
Ok, well I think that's about it...sorry for all the questions but thanks for all the help!
I did a search but couldn't find much, only that you need to disconect the battery..does it clear them right away when you do that?










