Oil filter question
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Oil filter question
I have seen two different styles of oil filters for our trucks. I'm talking about the inside of the filter. On one all you see is the filter element and on the other it has a plastic sleve with holes to allow the oil to pass into the filter. Has there been any problems with either type of filter. Sorry but I can't tell you brand names.
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Make sure you get a Racor. I know the Fram and Motorcraft filters are made by Racor. Lots of threads about this in the 6.0 and 6.4 forum's. To answer your question, yes non Racor filters can, and have, caused serious damage.
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The fram filter at Wal Mart didn't come with the cap. Can that be snaped on to any other cap. I have no idea which filter is on my truck now. I bought it used with 14,000 miles so it may never have been changed. Thanks in advance.
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You dont need a new cap. In fact stay away from the ones that come with a new cap as they are prone to leaking. The Racor filters come with a new O-ring and filter just pops in place. Its actually very simple once you have it apart and look at it.
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• The 6.4L Power Stroke® Diesel uses a cartridge
style oil filter, located on the top of the engine.
• When the oil filter is removed, the oil filter
housing drain valve is automatically opened to
drain most of the oil from the housing.
• The oil filter element snaps into the oil filter lid.
Note: The oil filter lid should be removed before
draining the oil from the oil pan so that the oil can
drain from the filter housing into the oil pan.
style oil filter, located on the top of the engine.
• When the oil filter is removed, the oil filter
housing drain valve is automatically opened to
drain most of the oil from the housing.
• The oil filter element snaps into the oil filter lid.
Note: The oil filter lid should be removed before
draining the oil from the oil pan so that the oil can
drain from the filter housing into the oil pan.
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These pictures are for a 6.0 but the 6.4 uses the same filter so this will give you a step by step picture of what to expect.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...ead.php?t=3556
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...ead.php?t=3556
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Thanks for your help so far. I changed my oil this morning and had a hard time removing the cap from the filter. My question is does the factory filter snap in around the outside of the filter or does it snap in the center. I guess I'm wondering if I might have an after market filter and cap I'm work with.
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Any markings or part numbers on the cap? Can you read any numbers on the top or bottom of the filter? If its a Racor filter it will have a patent pending number on it.
I have never had any trouble separating the cap and filter. It just takes a small tug. I would definitely determine what you have because if the Racor filter is not designed to work with the aftermarket cap you are asking for trouble. I will go look at what markings are on my cap but I know it at least has a torque spec on it.
I have never had any trouble separating the cap and filter. It just takes a small tug. I would definitely determine what you have because if the Racor filter is not designed to work with the aftermarket cap you are asking for trouble. I will go look at what markings are on my cap but I know it at least has a torque spec on it.
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You had an aftermarket filter on the truck with the cap glued to the filter, your old cap probably got thrown away. If I were you, i would buy a new ford cap and always use a Racor without the integral cap. Stay away from the filters that come with a cap.
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I agree 100%. I 2nd and 3rd that motion.
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Just as a side note, i have in the past had one *ell of a time snapping the old filter out of the cap and the new one back in. I don't really understand the need for an aftermarket oil filter. The oem filter is not expensive ($17 at walmart). Where did you get the truck? If from a dealer give them a call and let them know how displeased you are about this and see if they have a cap laying around. If from a private owner he may still have the original cap. Have you looked around the truck? Maybe he put it some place in the truck when he changed it. You should be able to get the cap from ford and international. International may be a little cheaper. good luck
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Thanks Guys. For me it's a 90 mile drive one way to a Ford dealer which I did this afternoon. The factory cap was $30.00 and is a lot different than what's on my truck. The dealer I got this truck from is 680 miles away so It won't do me any good getting mad. But this is also the reason I'm doing this because now I know what has and has not been done to my truck. I was charged $22.00 for the oil filter so that's not to bad, but the fuel filters, ouch.
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Yea the fuel filters cost a chunk of change. What you need to do is put an order into an internet supplier for fuel filters, oil filters and any coolant additives you may need. By buying off the web in advance you can save a ton. You are aware that you need to test the coolant for nitrates, right? If not then search around here and you should find the instructions. Since it is a new truck to you it probably hasn't been done by the previous owner nor selling dealer. Here is a post that talks about it. Good luck
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...em-health.html
I would also change the transmission fluid and transfer case fluid, the trans may be clean but nobody does the transfer case.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...em-health.html
I would also change the transmission fluid and transfer case fluid, the trans may be clean but nobody does the transfer case.
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