I've been shopping for a manual for my 1993 F250 4X4 with the 7.3 IDI Diesel..... And I'm getting real confused because I have read repeatedly that that engine wasn't turbocharged as a production model until 94.5 ....

And to make matters worse the term "Power Stroke" is used for the 1993 7.3 Diesel as being different than the 1993 7.3 IDI Diesel.....

So can anyone elucidate this for us???
It seems that in 1993 there were;
1. 7.3 IDI Diesel
2. 7.3 Power Stroke Diesel
3. 7.3 Turbo Diesel

But the Power Stroke Diesel was not a production option until 1994.5
WTF! I am soo confused.... I need to buy an service manual but I'm not sure what will give me the correct information or if it will really matter....

 

Mine Is a 94 idi 7.3 factory turbo. Build date is 09/93. As far as I know 94.5 first powerstroke. First facory turbo not so sure but someone else will be able to help. As far as manuals go I have heard the haynes are a bit limited. I have one that I was not happy with so I bought the OEM ones from helm but you start running into a couple of hundred dollars if you get the complete set. The Haynes titles I have are "FORD PICKUPS & BRONCO 1980 thru1996" and HAYNES DIESEL ENGINE REPAIR MANUAL." As I said not real happy with them but I am in AUS and can't just go to the local mechanic so have to do it all myself. They might be ok for service and fluid change etc.

 

they did start putting turbos in in 1993.the 2 books westaussie mentioned are the same 2 i have.as long as you really read them its all you need.and a little help in this forum.you might try watching ebay or amazon.com for factory manuals.for the most part the 7.3's and the 6.9 are essentially the same except for glowplug systems and such.and they arent that much different.oh and you are correct powerstrokes started in 94.5 but dont bet on parts stores knowing that.because i have had them literally argue with me

 

I am only looking at the OEM service manuals, I have watched haynes and chiltons over the years go from helpful to compost fodder, so I intend to never waste my money on them again.

I've found the OEM supplement for the 1993 7.3 IDI Turbo Diesel but, I don't have the factory turbo engine. So I need to know if there is any great difference between that engine and mine as far as the OEM Manual is concerned. And what is Power Stroke??? I thought it was a marketing label Ford stuck on the Turbo Diesels but, it appears there are other engineering differences between the 7.3 and a 7.3 power stroke....

I'm finding everything from $130 to $60 for the three book set of OEM service Manuals online. Which is why I started this thread, all the Diesel Supplement Manuals say Turbo Diesel, so I want to be as sure as I can without seeing it side by side with a non turbo diesel manual, that it will service my engine.

KnowwhatImean???

 

Try........

http://www.helminc.com/helm/homepage.asp?r=

 

This is the place I found all three manuals for about $60 total..... But thanks for the info anyway, others may have need of it.

The information about the manuals at Helminc didn't address my confusion.... I thought the practical experience here might provide comparative details a book seller can't.

I figure the core mechanics of the 93 turbo and my 93 IDI will be identical.
It's just my lack of experience with diesels has me cautious since I'll be on the road for several months and I can't really afford any mistakes.

My intent right now is to get the 1993 7.3IDI Turbo Diesel OEM service manual even though I don't have the turbo. Unless someone here tells me it won't work and why.

My Power Stroke question still stands, I mean 1993 to 1998 body parts swap clean, are the non turbo system parts compatible with my engine? Will water pumps and fuel risers swap and through what years? Can I scavenge from a 2002 7.3, or will a 1997 PSD turbo bolt onto my 1993 7.3IDI?

What is a 7.3 power stroke besides the turbocharger compared to my 7.3IDI???

 

The Powerstroke engine started in midyear 1994. It is a computer controled engine and the IDI engine is mechanical. About the only thig that is the same on the two is the 7.3 liter displcement. The 6.9 and 7.3 IDIs are closer in external parts swapping than the two 7.3s. The only thing I can think of that will work off a powerstroke on the idi is the oil filter.

 

Thanks farmert, thanks for the confirmation. Given that information, the only difference with the 93 turbo diesel and mine is a forced air intake vs. a passive intake.....

So it sounds like the 1993 7.3IDI Turbo Diesel Manual will service my engine quite nicely.....

 

There were only slight differences in the turbo IDI and NA IDI.
Oil cooler had more fins per inch on the turbo engine.
Wrist pins were bigger on some of the turbo motors.
Valves had a different metal composition.
IP numbers are different as well as the injector code.
Return line routing was a little different to keep the return line away from the down pipe.
Head bolt torque is a little higher on the turbo motor.
And then there was the turbo.

As for compatability, I am running 7.3 turbo valves and rockers on my 6.9.
I am also running a 7.3 turbo IP.
I have two oil coolers, one NA and one turbo and I am not sure which one is on the engine right now.

So bottom line, there are small differences, but the info is still good for your engine.

In 93 you could get both a NA 7.3 IDI and a 7.3 IDI Turbo.
In 94 you could get NA 7.3 IDI and 7.3 IDI Turbo, and starting mid year the 7.3 DI Power Stroke.

Some 93 7.3 turbo motors have a late 92 build date, so some people say the 7.3 turbo started in 1992.5.
But back in those days, the new models came out in September, so they had to build them a couple months before September to have them in the show rooms.

Power Stroke parts cost more money, so if you have a 94 IDI engine, just tell the parts place 93 7.3 IDI when you shop for parts.

 

Thanks Dave, I knew you were more than just a pretty face, that's just what I needed to know.

I need something now and the 93 turbo is the most reasonably priced manual available; $24 vs. $51 for the 7.3 diesel manual. So if the 93 will work I'll get it now.

I appreciate the info.

 

A quick overview that might help. Haynes equals c$#p. That's sorted now on to the real stuff.
Ford Part # FP12107-93-1, ECONOLINE,F150,F250,F350,BRONCO,F-SUPERDUTY. Body/Chassis Service Manual. 3000 plus pages. Great info,good to have.
Ford Part # FP12107-93-2, ECONOLINE,F150,F250,F350,BRONCO,F-SUPERDUTY.
Powertrain/Driveline service Manual. 3000 plus pages. You need this. Covers everything for the n/a diesel engines as well as all petrol engines and g/boxes.
Ford Part # FP12107-93-3, 7.3L IDI TURBO DIESEL.
Service Manual Supplement. 1-200 pages. Not for your engine. This manual deals only with turbo specific items and for all other refers you back to the first two.
Ford Part # FPS-12129-93, 1993 BRONCO/F150-F350,F-SUPERDUTY.
Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual. 2-300 pages. Again great info. Wiring diagrams, component views and positions and diognostic info. If you can afford/find it is well worth it. Link above for helm is good and also try www.auto-repair-manuals.com they find secondhand manuals in good condition and onsell them. Very helpful for me. These are all OEM manuals for ford service centers and are designed with the mechanic in mind but you can navigate them pretty well once you get your head around the index system they use, I would highly recomend them. Hope this helps and hasn't bored/confused the issue.

 

I just bought three of the four..... Looks like I'll need to find that electrical and vacuum manual some day and, I may end up just rolling over the turbo manual.....

Thanks for the info, great picture.

 

Just to add to the mix... If I'm looking at a 95 can I be reasonably assured that it will have the Powerstroke Diesel vice the Turbo Diesel?

 

YES only the powerstroke was available in 95.

 

Awesome, thanks. It's 5 hours away and I don't want to drive all the way out there to find it's not the engine I want.