No Reverse lights.
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
I did find a pic,you can see the red wire laying on the engine perch right behind the power steering pump.I haven't looked too closely at the wire,but there's a possibility it has a blue line.I'll find out for sure tomorrow.
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
Shaun,
If you look at these diagrams, you'll see all the colors of all the wires are listed
for you. For example, looking at 81-f-150's diagram, look at C-1019, the
elusive NSS. Notice it has two wires connecting to it, both R/LB (red with a
light blue stripe) and they each belong to Circuit #32.
On your starter solenoid - as is also shown in these diagrams - is a R/LB /
Circuit #32 wire; turning the key switch to START energizes that wire and,
therefore, the solenoid, which, in turn, supplies power to the starter motor. The
NSS keeps power from being applied to the solenoid.
If you look at these diagrams, you'll see all the colors of all the wires are listed
for you. For example, looking at 81-f-150's diagram, look at C-1019, the
elusive NSS. Notice it has two wires connecting to it, both R/LB (red with a
light blue stripe) and they each belong to Circuit #32.
On your starter solenoid - as is also shown in these diagrams - is a R/LB /
Circuit #32 wire; turning the key switch to START energizes that wire and,
therefore, the solenoid, which, in turn, supplies power to the starter motor. The
NSS keeps power from being applied to the solenoid.
If you look at the "Back-up lamp switch" for the auto transmission, on ctubutis's scans, you will see the Purple/Orange hash wire, and the Black/Pink wire. Both at C-1019.
If you look at the "Gear Shift Neutral Switch", on my scans, you will see both (2) Red/Lt. Blue stripe wires, also at C-1019.
That equals the 4 wires at C-1019. The "Backup lamp switch" and the "Gear Shift Neutral switch" are one single component. The NSS. But it's listed and marked seperately and in different sections on the diagrams.
Hopefully this makes scence.
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
Confirm the color and the stripe.
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
I'm real stumped on this.I'm gonna go out and pull the NSS again tomorrow and see if I can find a part number.If it doesn't have a Ford part number,will that mean it's aftermarket?Did Ford even put part numbers on the NSS?
I really appreciate the help ya'll,especially for scanning all the diagrams for me...It's really appreciated.
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
Ok, I'm going to look at the diagrams and report back what I find about Red/Yellow Hash wire.
Ford didn't really put part numbers on any of their parts. They did have a habit though of putting engineering numbers on parts. The engineering number can be decoded back to the actual part number in most cases.
If it's stamped Ford, it's original or a factory replacement. But for what application. That's the thing.
You are welcome.
I'm real stumped on this.I'm gonna go out and pull the NSS again tomorrow and see if I can find a part number.If it doesn't have a Ford part number,will that mean it's aftermarket?Did Ford even put part numbers on the NSS?
If it's stamped Ford, it's original or a factory replacement. But for what application. That's the thing.
I really appreciate the help ya'll,especially for scanning all the diagrams for me...It's really appreciated.
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
Circut #640: Red/Yellow Hash Wire
Hooks into Ignition switch via fuse Panel (F-2) and the Red/Lt Green Wire. Hot in Run only.
For Throttle position Solenoid Actuator, and Throttle Emission control Solenoid.
Basicly an anti dieseling preventitive measure. Closes the throttle plates when you shut the truck off, to prevent dieseling. Your Truck is probably missing them both now.
Hooks into Ignition switch via fuse Panel (F-2) and the Red/Lt Green Wire. Hot in Run only.
For Throttle position Solenoid Actuator, and Throttle Emission control Solenoid.
Basicly an anti dieseling preventitive measure. Closes the throttle plates when you shut the truck off, to prevent dieseling. Your Truck is probably missing them both now.
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
Circut #640: Red/Yellow Hash Wire
Hooks into Ignition switch via fuse Panel (F-2) and the Red/Lt Green Wire. Hot in Run only.
For Throttle position Solenoid Actuator, and Throttle Emission control Solenoid.
Basicly an anti dieseling preventitive measure. Closes the throttle plates when you shut the truck off, to prevent dieseling. Your Truck is probably missing them both now.
Hooks into Ignition switch via fuse Panel (F-2) and the Red/Lt Green Wire. Hot in Run only.
For Throttle position Solenoid Actuator, and Throttle Emission control Solenoid.
Basicly an anti dieseling preventitive measure. Closes the throttle plates when you shut the truck off, to prevent dieseling. Your Truck is probably missing them both now.
Moderator
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 22,415
Likes: 92
From: Denver Metro Area, CO
post close-up pix of your carb?
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership
Brett Foote
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches
Pouria Savadkouei
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained
Brett Foote
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
The closest thing I have is from when I removed the manifolds.Actually,you can see the circle thing and wire i'm talkin bout in the pic.It's facing upwards(towards you when you look at the picture).
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
Originally Posted by fordtruckman80
Would those be on the carb?There's a round thing on the side of the carb that's unplugged.
...
The closest thing I have is from when I removed the manifolds.Actually,you can see the circle thing and wire i'm talkin bout in the pic.It's facing upwards(towards you when you look at the picture).
...
The closest thing I have is from when I removed the manifolds.Actually,you can see the circle thing and wire i'm talkin bout in the pic.It's facing upwards(towards you when you look at the picture).
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
Okay,so does my red/yellow hash wire hook up to that?
You mentioned that the wire went to two separate devices.I have the one in the pic,so what about the other?Do certain trucks have one,and other trucks have another?I took close ups of my carb today,i'll try to get them up in a bit...
I'm sorry for all the questions.Would you happen to have a diagram of my carb with these two devices on it?
You mentioned that the wire went to two separate devices.I have the one in the pic,so what about the other?Do certain trucks have one,and other trucks have another?I took close ups of my carb today,i'll try to get them up in a bit...
I'm sorry for all the questions.Would you happen to have a diagram of my carb with these two devices on it?
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
Yes the wire hooks up to that. And yes, some trucks had one, or the other, or both, or neither. 
As for the diagram of the carb. I do have one but it does not show that solenoid. It's more of a internal exploded diagram. It covers both Carter YF and Carter YFA Non-Feedback and Feedback type.
As for the diagram of the carb. I do have one but it does not show that solenoid. It's more of a internal exploded diagram. It covers both Carter YF and Carter YFA Non-Feedback and Feedback type.
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
Yes the wire hooks up to that. And yes, some trucks had one, or the other, or both, or neither.
As for the diagram of the carb. I do have one but it does not show that solenoid. It's more of a internal exploded diagram. It covers both Carter YF and Carter YFA Non-Feedback and Feedback type.
As for the diagram of the carb. I do have one but it does not show that solenoid. It's more of a internal exploded diagram. It covers both Carter YF and Carter YFA Non-Feedback and Feedback type.
BTW,i'm glad you mentioned the whole YF YFA feedback thing.I've searched for an answer,but nothing really makes the difference clear to me.So,what's the difference between the YF and YFA,and how can I tell if I have a Feedback or Non-Feedback?Aren't the Non-Feedback carbs the older style?Once again,I really appreciate all the help man.
Post Fiend
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,786
Likes: 28
From: Northern California
BTW,i'm glad you mentioned the whole YF YFA feedback thing.I've searched for an answer,but nothing really makes the difference clear to me.So,what's the difference between the YF and YFA,and how can I tell if I have a Feedback or Non-Feedback?Aren't the Non-Feedback carbs the older style?Once again,I really appreciate all the help man.
Your carb is the Non-Feedback type. Yes they are the older style. Yours does not have the Feedback solenoid as in the diagram. Etc... Also of note where the dashpot is in the above diagram, your emission solenoid is placed on yours.
Each year could have 5 different carbs or calibrations just on the 1980 4.9L alone.
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
That's normal. It's because the solenoid has different applications, and uses.
Here is a diagram for the Carter YFA-Feedback type.
....
Your carb is the Non-Feedback type. Yes they are the older style. Yours does not have the Feedback solenoid as in the diagram. Etc... Also of note where the dashpot is in the above diagram, your emission solenoid is placed on yours.
Each year could have 5 different carbs or calibrations just on the 1980 4.9L alone.
Here is a diagram for the Carter YFA-Feedback type.
....
Your carb is the Non-Feedback type. Yes they are the older style. Yours does not have the Feedback solenoid as in the diagram. Etc... Also of note where the dashpot is in the above diagram, your emission solenoid is placed on yours.
Each year could have 5 different carbs or calibrations just on the 1980 4.9L alone.