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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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well I got a chance to work on it tonight. I went to check the floats to see if anything was working. All I got was sparks from the wires at the merettes.
I pulled the wiring through to the outside of the collar where I dug around. . Found where the outer plastic was cut away about 6 inches outside the collar. There some bare spots. Wire is green blue. In the merettes he had the dialectic grease to help keep moisture out, but over time it breaks down.
Anyways I tried to hook the pump up to a direct power. It will not come on. Just spark.
The breaker would not go on. But the more I dug out wire I found the short that tripped the breaker. Now it is dark out and I see I will need heat shrink and more wire.
There is not enough wire from the pump and alarm to go outside the collar back to a box I plan to mount. So Saturday I will be busy trying to rewire and get things going. The tank is already full of liquid and needs to get pumped soon. Cost $85.00 to get it pumped each time.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Found all the electrical shorts. Fixed them to test the pump. The pump is hooped. Have power going to the float switch and to the pump, but not through the pump. The pump does not come on. So tomorrow morning of I go to get a new pump. Then get it all properly set up so this does not happen again.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Hey Glen I just read your message today, sorry I didnt get a chance to call ya earlier.

Glad ya got er all figured out. One thing I have sure learned, is double check that float. They are the most common thing to go wrong.

I also seen some american made pumps for sale at Princess Auto. They SHOULD be decent quality, and I would recomend getting a big half horse one, if they have one.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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I'm heading to Crappy tire . They have a sale on a stainless steel one with lifetime warrenty and it is 3/4 hp. Selling at 299.00 right now. Reg at 419.00 The ones at Princess Auto are about the same area in price. I'm looking at the liftime thing. If it goes again at least it will be a fraction of the cost to replace then.
It is online on their website.

This will make me more comfortable knowing it will be all done the way it should of been done.
I was at Wigs today to get SHrink tape. They said Alta. has now had the codes changed for a few years that the tanks are to be wired externally. They said Sask wil follow suit. They tend to follow Alta lead.
He also mentioned they use to do the merette installs with the dialectic grease. They no long do this. They found it breaks down and causes problems. DUH!.
So according to them this guy did everything right to the code. But they recommend not to go that route. If they could they said they have all their installations on the outside also.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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Yeah thats not bad of a price, and with the lifetime warranty, its worth it.

When we bought our pump we went and bought a really good quality one, its a half horse, but has more power then most 3/4 horses!
With a 3/4 horse pump it should really work awesome, cause its about twice the size of what you actually need (but dont we all like more power?)

The guys (or gal) at wiggs, you have to take what they say witha grain of salt sometimes too. Saskatchewan and Alberta have alot of very different codes, but they are right that alot of the sask codes go from what the alberta wastewater says.

What they dont tell ya, is when you have to get things inspected, it technically has to pass the sask inspection, and the inspector can look at the code for alberta or sask, so it can make installing things a pita sometimes!

Im actually in the process of getting wastewater system design and install certification from the alberta wastewater guys (have done alot of reading and studying on the different systems and installs and sask VS alberta codes lately!)

In saskatchewan, you dont NEED to be certified to install a wastewater system. You only have to be qualified. By me getting the certification means I get to raise my rates, thats about all.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Finally got it up and running again. With the new made of GOLD sewage pump.
It still took some time to cut and splice away the wire section that was all broken with shorts from being exposed to the ground. Then routing it in conduit to a external box. Also try and reach in to strap the pumps power cords so they do not fall into the sewage. It was still a lot of work. Then backfill the dirt I dug out.
There is only one more thing to do. Is to mount the external bax onto the collar. Need a hammer drill so I can put some anchors in to keep it solid.
It seems to be working fine and pumped out the gray water now.
The wire to the tank alarm in the tank sure is crappy wire. The stuff was breaking off in my hand. Had to put new wire there also.
Next time the pump goes it should not take as long. because everything is done right and it will be easy to pull the new wire through the conduit to a box.
Hopefully not for 30 years >>>
 
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Regarding tank alarms, the best thing out there, is wireless!

Drill a hole in the top, set it, and plug it in, in the house!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Well it is all rewired in. Not going to touch it for now.
All I got to do is mount the plastic box to the collar and it should be good for years to come.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Right on Glen!
 
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