Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

what is the 'BRAIN" called?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:33 PM
  #1  
Copedawg's Avatar
Copedawg
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,259
Likes: 17
From: Gambrills
Club FTE Silver Member

what is the 'BRAIN" called?

I was at the junkyard today looking for an IDM. The counterguy refered to it as a computer. I tried to tell him that it controlled the Injectors but he was pretty flippen sure it was a computer. I saw something it the lDM I did a mod to that resembled a processor but I don't think it is.
If you were to dump a program in your truck, where is it stored? What is the component called?
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:42 PM
  #2  
Action4478's Avatar
Action4478
Hotshot
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,764
Likes: 39
Its called the Powertrain control module (PCM)
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:44 PM
  #3  
Copedawg's Avatar
Copedawg
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,259
Likes: 17
From: Gambrills
Club FTE Silver Member

Yes! OK, I knew that way back when, thanks. Where is it located?
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:58 PM
  #4  
79f-250custom's Avatar
79f-250custom
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
behind the e-brake assembly. take the 3 bolts off the e brake, then go under the hook take off the wire harness and 2 more bolts"i think" and pull it out from behind the e-brake.
Mitch
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:59 PM
  #5  
79f-250custom's Avatar
79f-250custom
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
you idm is bolted onto the driverside fender with 3 8mm bolts and a 10 mill bolt that holds on the harness.
Mitch
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:40 PM
  #6  
Action4478's Avatar
Action4478
Hotshot
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 10,764
Likes: 39


Thanks to TJ Beggs ...

The PCM comes out from under the hood ....
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:58 PM
  #7  
Copedawg's Avatar
Copedawg
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,259
Likes: 17
From: Gambrills
Club FTE Silver Member

Thanks fellas! I am on track now.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:53 AM
  #8  
DZL JIM's Avatar
DZL JIM
PREMIUM SPONSOR
20 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 217
From: North East Ohio
Cope,
You (we) can also use the IDM from Super Duties. These are much harder to remove than the OBS as they are further down the fender. All IDM's are interchangable between '94 - '03.

Now the SD ECM (same as our PCM) is easier to get to than the OBS, under dash, driver's side.
 
__________________
'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:11 AM
  #9  
Copedawg's Avatar
Copedawg
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,259
Likes: 17
From: Gambrills
Club FTE Silver Member

Are the PCM and ECM interchangeble as well?
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:28 AM
  #10  
Brown Falcon's Avatar
Brown Falcon
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,231
Likes: 130
From: Thomasville, GA
Originally Posted by Copedawg
Are the PCM and ECM interchangeble as well?
The ECM from a Superduty will be set up to run split-shot injectors. So unless you have a '97 cali emissions model it won't run your injectors right.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:33 AM
  #11  
DZL JIM's Avatar
DZL JIM
PREMIUM SPONSOR
20 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 217
From: North East Ohio
Bingo.
The programming/tuning of the truck goes via the ECM/PCM so they are different for Splits & Singles.

The IDM's only job is to charge the solenoids of the injectors (basically), so it doesn't care if they are Split or Single shot. It just want's to know when to charge the solenoids and for how long.
FWIW, I have an actual IDM hooked to a lap-top that runs my flow bench.
 
__________________
'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:41 AM
  #12  
Copedawg's Avatar
Copedawg
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,259
Likes: 17
From: Gambrills
Club FTE Silver Member

Good deal! Actually I do have a stinky Cali model. What I am hearing is that I could use a ECM then. Will a newer ECM let me pop wheelies? would it give it more horses?
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:47 AM
  #13  
Brown Falcon's Avatar
Brown Falcon
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,231
Likes: 130
From: Thomasville, GA
Not sure if it'll give you any more power... probably not.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:48 AM
  #14  
Copedawg's Avatar
Copedawg
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,259
Likes: 17
From: Gambrills
Club FTE Silver Member

and if I ever change my injectors I would need to get splits?
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:28 AM
  #15  
Brown Falcon's Avatar
Brown Falcon
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,231
Likes: 130
From: Thomasville, GA
You would need to get a custom chip like a TW, DP Tuner, or PHP that will run the bigger single-shots. You'd have to do that anyways if you got bigger injectors though even if you did have the single-shots already.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:57 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE