Need more HPOP pressure
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From: Suffolk, VA
Need more HPOP pressure
Maybe that's not the correct terminology, but I bet there's a few people wondering about the same problem after RRE. And if not, I am so I'll start a thread. The oil pressures noted on my truck while live tuning were a bit low when we started in the 100hp and + tunes. In the 120 and 140 I was down to about 1800-1900psi at over 90% duty cycle. Nothing terrible, but I'd sure benefit from more pressure. I only had 80E before so I never really noticed or needed any more. So that leads me to my question, what options and what opinions do you all have?
I know about the Adrenaline, but it seems to be fairly new and I can't find much on it from someone that's realistic so far. I've read where people smile from ear to ear, and others weren't impressed.
I'm on the stock injectors, and seriously have no intentions of using anything else. Still on the stock turbo too, and will be for a while; but there's a chance that could be changed some day.
Teach me.
I know about the Adrenaline, but it seems to be fairly new and I can't find much on it from someone that's realistic so far. I've read where people smile from ear to ear, and others weren't impressed.
I'm on the stock injectors, and seriously have no intentions of using anything else. Still on the stock turbo too, and will be for a while; but there's a chance that could be changed some day.
Teach me.
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If you plan on future mods you have asked the same question.
I am in the search for the perfect pump setup myself also so just subscribing. I can hold between 2100-2300 at WOT but would like more.
I guess I just need more flow so I can maintain a good pressure.
I want options!
I am in the search for the perfect pump setup myself also so just subscribing. I can hold between 2100-2300 at WOT but would like more.
I guess I just need more flow so I can maintain a good pressure.
I want options!
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I don't plan on future mods, but what I'm looking for is to make the most of what I've got now. Right now I'm not getting all I can from the stock injectors even. So I don't need anything crazy, wondering if I should just try a new factory HPOP or go with something better and to know what good options there are.
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the ups man just showed up and i got so excited i jumped on here to start my own thread but this thread will do just fine! looky what brown just did for me?
muahahahahahahaahaha!
i want to go out and install it but im a little hesitant. i dont think its anything i cant handle i just dont want to mess it up........
muahahahahahahaahaha!
i want to go out and install it but im a little hesitant. i dont think its anything i cant handle i just dont want to mess it up........
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You may not plan on mods for performance etc. and I'm *somewhat* in the same boat... but eventually, your turbo & injectors will (at the least) need rebuilding. You can rebuild the turbo for about $100 but injectors.... you'll likely be looking at replacing them. I know that when that time comes, for the (relatively) smaller increase in price, I'll likely go up to Single Shot injectors with a slightly higher flow rate. It will be noisier, but it will make better power and very likely have an increase in MPGs.
So, with that perspective.... maybe always having the stock turbo, possibly upgrading the injectors... you'll at least want a strong 17* pump, but for the money, the Adrenaline will provide the volume to maintain higher pressures with where you are now, and in the future. I believe Terminator Engineering also sells a higher volume HPOP. Those are the two I've considered. I'm happy with my Adrenaline, especially knowing that the mild upgrades I'm planning won't have me looking for another HPOP.
So, with that perspective.... maybe always having the stock turbo, possibly upgrading the injectors... you'll at least want a strong 17* pump, but for the money, the Adrenaline will provide the volume to maintain higher pressures with where you are now, and in the future. I believe Terminator Engineering also sells a higher volume HPOP. Those are the two I've considered. I'm happy with my Adrenaline, especially knowing that the mild upgrades I'm planning won't have me looking for another HPOP.
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It was bfife's thread that I read. His results sucked. If I am going to the trouble I want more than 200 or 300 psi better.
Not to mention, I just had live tuning done. No way in hell I'm going with another chip, not that I'm convinced that was the right move for him anyway.
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Subscribing..........I always get that pesky little light when I'm into the throttle pretty good. I haven't pulled any numbers or know anyone with AE to get numbers, but I'm betting I've got a boarder line pump. I've been looking at the Adrenaline pretty good, maybe in the near future. My truck runs good right now so I'm not worried too much.
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Do you know what you're pressures are now and do you plan to measure them after the install?
I don't have AE, so I'm going by what others experience I guess. Man, I really should have just got that other AE at RRE when Clay had it right in front of me. If it were not for having to buy a new fuel pump while I was there I would have.
I don't have AE, so I'm going by what others experience I guess. Man, I really should have just got that other AE at RRE when Clay had it right in front of me. If it were not for having to buy a new fuel pump while I was there I would have.
the ups man just showed up and i got so excited i jumped on here to start my own thread but this thread will do just fine! looky what brown just did for me?
muahahahahahahaahaha!
i want to go out and install it but im a little hesitant. i dont think its anything i cant handle i just dont want to mess it up........
muahahahahahahaahaha!
i want to go out and install it but im a little hesitant. i dont think its anything i cant handle i just dont want to mess it up........
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Subscribing..........I always get that pesky little light when I'm into the throttle pretty good. I haven't pulled any numbers or know anyone with AE to get numbers, but I'm betting I've got a boarder line pump. I've been looking at the Adrenaline pretty good, maybe in the near future. My truck runs good right now so I'm not worried too much.
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It was bfife's thread that I read. His results sucked. If I am going to the trouble I want more than 200 or 300 psi better.
Not to mention, I just had live tuning done. No way in hell I'm going with another chip, not that I'm convinced that was the right move for him anyway.
It was bfife's thread that I read. His results sucked. If I am going to the trouble I want more than 200 or 300 psi better.
Not to mention, I just had live tuning done. No way in hell I'm going with another chip, not that I'm convinced that was the right move for him anyway.
If you talk to Barney now, he has tunes from PHP and as far as I know the thing whole setup is working great.
Hopefully he'll chime in here soon. I too am curious as to some real-time testing and numbers, not just "it works for me".
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From: Damon (South East Texas)
Clay is going to try to work out something with Joey @ Terminator on his 17* modded pump. It may be a few weeks away. I can't seem to wait that long. It looks like my IPR is erratic. Jody adjusted my ICP's and they kept changing without changes in PCM output. The duty cycle, etc stayed the same, but the ICP kept changing on its own. I seem to have two problems. One with the IPR and one with the HPOP not keeping up with the demand. My truck was doing better after the live tune, but has begun its "old tricks" on the way home: romp idle at times and excessive smoke. I need to do something soon. I already have dealt with this for a month before the live tune. I am not blaming the tunes. It is something mechanical/hydraulic that can't be controlled.