" Noob " still !
If yours are just bolted on, try unhooking them and see if it makes any difference. The more work the truck is doing, the more exhaust needs to pass through. If they're somewhat plugged, the increased flow can cause problems.
Out of curiosity, what gears do you have?
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I also had a Jeep Wrangler that had your lack of power problem. It turned out to be a bad cat conv. Didn't have the overheating thing, though. Just the lack of power. Replaced the cat conv. and power came back.
As you stated the O2 sensor was faulting and resulted in a code, then it may be worth a couple more bucks to cut between the 2(may be possible or not to get in a spot where you can see either one from the opposing end of the cut) and inspect. If the mixture had been running rather rich for an extended amount of time, it can and has been known to damage a cat, and/or severly shorten the lifespan of it. Another reason, with only a small percentage of shorter lifespans of a "CAT", is the use of motor oil with higher than normal Zinc in it/and other elements for fighting metal to metal grind. This has been supported by many as the leading role in motor oil, since at the time the vehicle was new, higher Zinc was acceptable to prevent nasty cold, dry starts. But as we constantly try to improve the "wheel" we inadvertantly forget the PAST million vehicles on the road that still needed a good amount Zinc, since they weren't designed with such tight clearances, or newly redesigned engines, resulting in much more efficient, cleaner vehicles, needing only like 5w-20.
I got way off topic, but a reputable muffler shop can assist if you decide to cut one out and just put a piece of straight pipe if you can salvage either cat.
If you get lucky you may find a shop that will cut corners but odds are most of them will be jerks about it.
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Once you get used to the computerized engine, you will appreciate it. The computer can help you figure out what is wrong. Even if the check engine light is not on, the computer can still have codes stored that will help find the problem. The 4.9 normally has plenty of power. You axle is good for fuel economy, but not so good for putting power to the road or pulling any serious weight.
The first thing to do is pull the codes, and come back here with the results. Here is one way to pull the codes: http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=13
Stored codes can be read any time. The engine running codes need to be read while the engine is up to temp. Reading codes on a cold engine will give a long list of codes, because the sensors are not hot enough yet.
Often a code will take some thought as to what is actually wrong. It is not as simple as replacing the sensor giving the code. I like to erase the codes by unhooking the battery for 20 minutes then take it for a drive. It takes a few minutes for the computer to relearn how to manage the fuel again, and it may idle bad, and run rough for a short time. Then I pull the codes, and know that any codes present are current and not something stored for a long time.
A basic tune up is almost always a good thing to get out of the way. Plugs, wires, air filter, and timing. Be sure and check the base timing with the spout connector out. Improper timing can kill power, and if it is off far enough, can cause overheating problems.
Many problems like partially clogged cats can be diagnosed with a vacuum gauge. This is a lot easier and quicker than pulling a cat off. You can read how to do this here : http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm
If working on an overheating issue. I think the first step is a new and tested thermostat. Get a new thermostat in the factory temp range, cooler is not better. Put the new stat in a pan of water on the stove. Use a cooking thermometer to test the temp where it opens. New stats have been known to be bad too. Really creates a problem when you put one in assuming it is good.
To do what I have described, you are needing just basic hand tools, a timing light, and a vacuum gauge. If you are going to keep you truck running great, the timing light and vacuum gauge are basic tools also.
The 4.9 is well known for lasting a long time. It can easily outlast the body and tranny, and present very few problems. Seriously overheat any engine and all bets are off on how long it will last.
Good Luck Frank
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My pick up had problems regulating heat, especially during the summer- after eliminating the sender unit as a suspect, I did a complete flush of the system and haven't had a problem since. You'd be surprised how much gunk can build up in the system.
And yes, Muffler guys can be real jerks and terrible welders! Been there and wont' go to another one again that sell's "Monkey" welds!!
As dbgrif stated, I did the same with a Prestone flush kit, but removed the Thermostat and reused the old gasket to prevent leakage. The gasket itself is only like $1.00. I then bolted the housing back up and hooked the garden hose up to it, but not full blast. Just a gentle flow with someone helping. Once I got in, I had my assisstant turn the water on and I started it. I ran it for about 15 to 20 mins, from idle to 2000rpms and then gently back down, with the same cycle every few mins. When I shut the engine off, I had my assistant turn the water off and then water for the rest of the water to empty from the filler neck hose that was hooked to even longer hose that emptied into the street. I purged the system with some compressed air and filled it back up with 50/50 mix. About 12 quarts is what mine took.
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