Hey guys,

Sorry I've been away for a while, I have been pretty overwhelmed trying to get the new barn/shop done, and I'm finally almost there. It'll still be another two or three weeks before I get my floor epoxied so I can move in, but in anticipation I have started the process of bringing the 511 back from the dead.

I will be magging the crank in the next few days, and then if it's ok, it'll be off to be checked for straight. The block will be going to ARC Racing Engines in Brownsville, Ind to see if it can be welded up and re-sleeved. I am confident that it can. When I get the parts back the build will start.

Here's the plan:

Fill block
GRP aluminum rods, 6.7 long
Tapered wall pins
11.5:1 blower pistons
Littlefield 14-71 Hi Helix Retro blower
Enderle Bird injector
Front drive fuel pump
Methanol
T&D rocker system.

I am looking to find a solution to running both the fuel pump and a mag drive off the cam. There isn't one made for this engine, but I believe I can get a front drive from another make like Hemi or Chevy and adapt it. If I can I'll set it up with a MSD mag solution.

The idea is to see if I can get this combo to make about 1500hp on a lazy tuneup. I'm not worried about the block, but I do have some concerns about the small amount of head gasket sealing area between the bores, and intake gasket sealing area around the ports. I think I can solve both of them, if they occur, but it won't be that easy. I also don't know if it will be possible to use the Blue Thunder blower manifold or if I'll have to fab one. Minor problem.

Now it's just getting parts and starting assembly. Should be a fun build.

-Scouder

 

Brian , Its sounds like another Bad A$$ build to me...Looks like you getting inti the HP level for O-Ringing the block to seal it...

1500 hp is Scary Fast !! Keep us posted...and we need some updated pics of that Palace you call your Barn...I could only be so lucky !!

 

Now THAT'S a parts list!!! Jeezopeet!! Can't wait to see this one come together!!!

Been years back I've seen old school pump drives and offset dizzy drive covers on Ebay. Not sure who made them, but looked 60-70's for sure.

 

Larry, I wonder if Scoots gonna put that Monster back in the Truck ? Or put it in the Fairlane he bought ? Either way its gonna be a killer Alky Motor !

BTW...Sorry to hear about the Bumper on the Race Car !! I can understand why you just walked away !! Otherwise you might be in Jail today for Murder !!

 

I also don't know if it will be possible to use the Blue Thunder blower manifold or if I'll have to fab one. Minor problem.

Brian Check with Ol Man Hampton at Hamton Blowers out in SoCal....I think he can help you out with the Blower intake...I have been at his shop a few times when running the Altered...and he works wonders on stuff...I dont know if he still runs the program there ? Or if his Son took over...But I cant see him letting go of the whole enchalada to the boy ! either..But the Kids is real sharp too...As he was raised in the Biz... Just suggestions...as you've done fine on your own...

 

The motor will go back in the truck. Obviously the truck will get some serious chassis and roll cage improvements. When I built the cage in the truck it was for two passengers, and was for the unlikely chance that it would roll. Now it will be more of a funny car style cage around the driver, and will be built for the more likely scenario that it will roll. I will also lighten up the chassis a bunch. I'm going to see how much weight I can peel off of it over time. I'm looking for 600 pounds if I can find it. That would have the truck with me in it at 3600. Lastly, I'm going to take the lift out of it and put it back closer to a stock ride height.

Since the C6 I have won't take that kind of abuse, I'm switching to a Powerglide. They are taking over 2000hp, so it should work fine. The other advantage to the glide is I can have it shifted from a chip, so I don't have to worry about missing it.

I've seen some of those front drive timing covers that had a mag drive and fuel pump boss, but not for sale. If anybody sees one for sale let me know. The other day I saw what looked like a modular setup that bolted to a matching timing cover. If it is what I think, then I can simply build a timing cover to act as a base, and bolt that modular unit to it. I would be much happier with a front drive mag than a distributor setup with this engine.

My best run with the bottle was 6.73 at 103 in the 1/8. By my best calculations that works out to about 870 crank HP, which matches pretty close to what I thought the engine should be making. This setup should easily put me into the 5's at 115-125mph.

This will be a gradual build, but alot of fun.

-Scouder

P.S. I'll post some pics of the finished shop when I get the floor epoxied.

 

Well Scoot, I threw the build out at a couple of Guys I know that run Blown Alky motors..and it will be a killer build as we know..the original 511 was no PIG either.. I also crunched some number's @ 4000lbs with you in it...and came up with a 5.50 in the 1/8th and a 8.40 in the 1/4 @ 158mph..and that was at 1500hp..

The Glide is a wise choice... Back in the Day when I ran a 65 Olds 442...even the guys with the Stangs and the GTO's and BB Chevelles couldnt believe that kind of times I was turning with it..and It came stock with a glide...and most of the factory muscle cars at that time came with the BB had the Turbo 400's... So I guess the Old Man knew what he was doing when he ordered the car from the factory..and everyone thought he was Crazy! But the olds built enough Tq to handle a 2 speed and it worked very well...didnt need the intermediate gear...But race weight with that car after a few years was only about 3200lbs with driver...

Are you going to shift it off a chip Via an Air solenoid ?

 

I think I was being conservative when I estimated the weight of the truck at 4200 with me in it, it might have been a little lighter. With the changes I plan to make I should easily be able to drop 400lbs, and with some work I might get another 200. Any way you stack it, the truck will weigh in between 3600 and 3800 including driver. Just losing the radiator, coolant, lines, waterpump, radiator, headlights and buckets (will be stickers for headlights), radiator support, alternator, battery, and power steering is a huge weight savings. I will also replace the big, heavy factory framerails and crossmembers with lighter material, and make my own windshield. I'd bet the windshield goes 30lbs or more. Take out the Detroit in the back and put a spool is a big savings too. Even after adding the weight of the supercharger and firesuit back in the truck gets a serious diet.

As for the shifter, I don't know what mechanism I will use to hit the handle, but CO2 is likely. The shifter let's me sneak up on performance by short shifting until I prove the chassis and grow enough stones to let it breathe deep. Gives me butterflies just thinking about it.

Good to talk to you again.

-Scouder

 

Well thats gonna be one Bad MF for sure...As I'am sure a few of Us Old gang on here will be watching the build with jealous Eye's ... .... Sounds like to me with a the re-fabbing your going to do...a trip to US bodies will be in order too....Sure sounds like fun and an E ticket ride for sure...

One of my Buds here has a BBF Fox Stang that runs 5.80's in the 1/8th NA....and when he broke his leg a few years ago..I ran his car in the last few races to keep him in the points standings at the local track...I didnt run 5.80 in the car but after some seat time did get a few 6.0+ and with 1.28 60ft times..that will rip your lips off ... hell that might have been what brought on my heart attack ??

Yeah Brian ...It has been a long time, and Damn good to hear from you again ....Tell Kenny I said Hello and hope he's doing well also..

~Russ

 

Good thing I had lips painted on my helmet!

-Scouder

 

One thing I don't know is if the bigger 12-14/71 blowers use the same 6 bolt mounts? Just the fact the bell ends are ALOT longer and use longer rotors? NO matter, it will take ALOT of room for all that stuff stuck on top of the motor.

'Glide?? Huh?? No stick shift? LMAO!!! At least maybe a Lenco? LOL!! Aw, geez, alright...maybe you will be a bit busy steering to have a free hand to shift. Guess my piddly little 6# of boost on my 390 just ain't enough to worry about? LOL!

 

Well Scoot, I had a few of the guys that run Big blown Meth motors 600"s +...I'am sure you probably already did the research...But O-ringing is the best way to go with the heads and block, with the receiver groove on both the head and the block....Some guys have said they have had good luck with the Cometic MLS gaskets running 20lbs + on a tune..

Well the wife walked in about 10 mins. ago and I lost my train of thought..something else I was gonna mention ?? I'll think about it later !!

And Larry you have over a dozen years of seat time....You should be shifting a RoadRanger in the Dragon Wagon by now ...
But "IF" I had the change to do so...O-Ringing would be my first choice..

 

Well thats one way to keep them close to your Face !!

 

Yeah, it'll go on. The retro blowers will bolt right on, but there'll be a hugh air leak up front where the front of the unit is cut out. All it takes is a retro plate, which is nothing but an aluminum plate that bolts to the manifold, and has a separate bolt pattern to position the blower where it is needed. It will definitely require some mods to the firewall area. No biggie, because I plan to replace the stock firewall anyway. The only thing I would like is to have it fit under the stock hood line. It will be VERY close.

You hit it exactly with the free hand thing. At least in the beginning I am almost certain I don't have the stones to stab this thing and jerk the handle too. The good thing about blower whine is people won't hear me screaming like a little girl on the first full pass!

-Scouder

 

I've been brainstorming with some of the guys I race with, and it looks like I might have been a little high on my estimate of the truck weight when finished. It might be that I can get 'er down to about 3100-3200 with me in it! Still calculating, but it is definitely looking lighter than I thought it would be.

-Scouder