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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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How would a truck with a 351 Cleveland and 3:55 gears do with 33 inch tires for on road only use? Also it has a C6 and the motor is far from stock. Right now with the 30-31 tires it seems to get up and go pretty good, WOT first to second turns the tires over on dry pavement but is spins around 2500-2600rpm at 65mph.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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I was also curious as to how close the front and rear ratios should be. This stuff is new to me and I plan on upgrading tires and gearing in the future.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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lets go back to my first post where i said a truck with 3.70ish gears an 33 INCH TIRES would have decent highway manners

thats right close to your chart and thats before you posted

and im sorry 75f350 but -works for me, in my case, means works for me

i have 7.20.1 gears in my pull truck and i love em
but i wouldnt have it any other way for my beat around rig with 40s and 3.50s
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by alex211
How would a truck with a 351 Cleveland and 3:55 gears do with 33 inch tires for on road only use? Also it has a C6 and the motor is far from stock. Right now with the 30-31 tires it seems to get up and go pretty good, WOT first to second turns the tires over on dry pavement but is spins around 2500-2600rpm at 65mph.
3:55's definitely aren't ideal for you (even with the tires you're running now). They'll work, of course, but a better bet would be 3:89's or 4:10's. 33's will drop your highway rpms, but you'll definitely notice less power off the line. Believe me, the difference of 2" of tire really is more noticable than you'd think. If your gears are close to correct in the first place, that difference wouldn't be such a big deal.

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I was also curious as to how close the front and rear ratios should be. This stuff is new to me and I plan on upgrading tires and gearing in the future.
Gears should always be the same ratio front and rear so that you don't have one end trying to go a different speed than the other. However, sometimes the number won't be exactly the same, but instead will be awful close. For example, mine are 4:11 and 4:10. You don't want to be running a 4:10 and a 3:89 together though (or any other combination like this).
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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Would a 3:73 work well for 33 inch tires, the 3:54 gears work pretty good right now. It flies up any hill on the highway with ease.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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I can't tell you exactly if that's a good combo. You'll have to make that decision yourself. I can provide you with another chart that is a bit different than the last and seems to be a bit more optimistic about using higher gears (numerically lower) with larger tires. It does look like 3:73's with 33's are out on the furthest edge with this one. That's where my combo is right now. While it works, like I said earlier, I wish I had lower gears than I do.

Yellow - Highway Driving, Good Fuel Economy
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This is at 65 mph with a manual. Automatics will have slightly higher RPM's.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by alex211
Would a 3:73 work well for 33 inch tires, the 3:54 gears work pretty good right now. It flies up any hill on the highway with ease.
id say that without an overdrive gear that would be a decent setup
in fact thats how my winter truck is set up

but what do i know i didnt look at the chart
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by superd02
id say that without an overdrive gear that would be a decent setup
in fact thats how my winter truck is set up

but what do i know i didnt look at the chart
I didn't either
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Hmm, it seems that 4.56's would be good for 33's with the possibility of moving up to 35's. Or should I try to move a little higher up, to say 4.86's?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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My buddy has 4:10 gears and 31 inch tires, its nice for slow driving but on the highway it screams just to get to 55.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Hmm. I will have to drive it on the highway some...Maybe 4.10's, with 33's?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Thanks for all the info, hearing you guys gripe back and forth was kinda entertaining and listening to both sides of opinons i am still stuck in the middle between the 3.90 and 4.10, i would probaly enjoy 4.10s more but i also dont want a truck that tops out at 60mph, im just gonna have to man up and pick one and live with it. And to the gentleman who posted
Np435
1st-4:78:1
2nd-2:39:1
3rd- 1:37:1
4th- 1:1
its really
NP435
1st-6.69
2nd-3.34
3rd-1.79
4th-1.00
Thanks again for the help fellers
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 77custom408
Thanks for all the info, hearing you guys gripe back and forth was kinda entertaining and listening to both sides of opinons i am still stuck in the middle between the 3.90 and 4.10, i would probaly enjoy 4.10s more but i also dont want a truck that tops out at 60mph, im just gonna have to man up and pick one and live with it. And to the gentleman who posted
Np435
1st-4:78:1
2nd-2:39:1
3rd- 1:37:1
4th- 1:1
its really
NP435
1st-6.69
2nd-3.34
3rd-1.79
4th-1.00
Thanks again for the help fellers
Actually, both are correct. Depending on whether you have a wide ratio np435 or not.

Anyway, at least you got some info from this thread...
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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I must know, how do i tell if its a wide ratio or not, you done spiked my couriosity now
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Ok, I did some digging, and I'm still not 100% sure on this, but I'd say that most Fords had the wide ratio (w/ 6.69:1 1st). However, I've found multiple references to there also being a close ratio gearbox used by Ford. I know for a fact that both Dodge and Chevy used both close & wide ratio NP435's, but I can't find a solid source to verify or deny that Ford did also.
 
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