Column To Floor Shift
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The bad thing about just taking a DA to the flywheel is that it doesn't keep it smooth, flat, and equal. You can either take it to a machine shop to be turned, or check into a new one. You migh be surprised at how cheap they are. I know Autozone has them for around $80.
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As has been posted, perfectly true & flat surfaces are crucial to successful clutch
operation. If it were me, I'd have it reground; the shop should tell you if if it can't
\e ground without falling out of spec (in which case you'd get a replacement). It's
too much work to take it apart over & over again, do it right while you have the
opportunity.
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It ain't good....
As has been posted, perfectly true & flat surfaces are crucial to successful clutch
operation. If it were me, I'd have it reground; the shop should tell you if if it can't
\e ground without falling out of spec (in which case you'd get a replacement). It's
too much work to take it apart over & over again, do it right while you have the
opportunity.
As has been posted, perfectly true & flat surfaces are crucial to successful clutch
operation. If it were me, I'd have it reground; the shop should tell you if if it can't
\e ground without falling out of spec (in which case you'd get a replacement). It's
too much work to take it apart over & over again, do it right while you have the
opportunity.
But hey, if Autozone has them maybe out local American Auto Supply can get them (10mi. away). If I buy a flywheel does it come with gear ring?
And thanks for all the advise!
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Okay guys, thinks are looking a little better. Called local Auto Supply and he can order Flywheels and thinks they come with a gear ring. Problem is, he can order automatic and V8 flywheels ($119.xx) but has no listing for a 300 I6 flywheel...didn't make sense, but there you go.
Asked him about resurfacing a flywheel and he said there is a Local Machinist, about 10mi. away...I called him, he said he didn't grind them but "Turned" them. Said it would take about an hour and cost $50. So, I need to remove the flywheel, catch a ride, and take it to him and see if it can be turned, and if so, have it turned. I'm about to go try to remove the six bolts holding the flywheel on, is there anything else holding the flywheel on? Dowel, pin, etc.?
Thanks again for info...really don't want to go down under again for this if at all possible!
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Asked him about resurfacing a flywheel and he said there is a Local Machinist, about 10mi. away...I called him, he said he didn't grind them but "Turned" them. Said it would take about an hour and cost $50. So, I need to remove the flywheel, catch a ride, and take it to him and see if it can be turned, and if so, have it turned. I'm about to go try to remove the six bolts holding the flywheel on, is there anything else holding the flywheel on? Dowel, pin, etc.?
Thanks again for info...really don't want to go down under again for this if at all possible!
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Got the flywheel "Turned" this morning and the guy said it was warped pretty bad. Cracks, grooves, and warps are now gone. Really glad I was able to get that done locally. And yeah, the six bolts from the flywheel to the crankshaft end is all that holds the flywheel on, didn't see any pins or dowels. Now...waiting for the eBay Hurst Indy 3-Speed Shifter to arrive via USPS. 
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Hopefully they turned it properly... Local Carquest puts them on the brake lathe, so it doesn't end up true... My 6.9 flywheel was ground on a flat decking plate... showed the circular marks and all, smooth as a bell in shifts. A good friend won't have them turned on a lathe due to not being true too many times.
You already got most of your answers, but yes, most flywheels come with the rig gear as well.
You already got most of your answers, but yes, most flywheels come with the rig gear as well.
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The bolt holes on the flywheel line up with the crank only one way, you can't install the
flywheel with 6 bolts "wrong" (unless you don't torque it correctly or sumthin').
Yeah, changing a clutch can be a pain in the *** - especially considering your
circumstances - but it sounds like you've got a decent handle on it and are doing the right
things.
Don't lose those any of those 6 Shoulder Bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel,
it's hard to find replacements (ask me how I know this).
flywheel with 6 bolts "wrong" (unless you don't torque it correctly or sumthin').
Yeah, changing a clutch can be a pain in the *** - especially considering your
circumstances - but it sounds like you've got a decent handle on it and are doing the right
things.
Don't lose those any of those 6 Shoulder Bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel,
it's hard to find replacements (ask me how I know this).
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Heavy duty linkages
These two heavy duty column shifting linkages don't screw in or seem to have any clips...anyone have any idea how to remove them?
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Not too easily pried off, but they do come off, and off they come.
Longest linkage goes closest to firewall.
Shorter linkage towards front.
Still have Mr. Gasket...still waiting for Mr. Hurst...ha ha.
Longest linkage goes closest to firewall.
Shorter linkage towards front.
Still have Mr. Gasket...still waiting for Mr. Hurst...ha ha.
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I did receive the Hurst Indy today, laid it out and looked at parts...couple bolts are missing. Mounting this to the transmission...if I mount the bracket that looks to want to mount to one bolt of transmission, it looks to block the hole where the speedometer gear & cable needs to go. Will the gear fit into the hole with brace in place? It's late in the day-go roll it up-try to figure it out tomorrow.
Standby/Spare Parts: Mr.Gasket #7667A
looks kinda nifty
Standby/Spare Parts: Mr.Gasket #7667A
looks kinda nifty
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I just wanted to point out that the proper way to resurface a flywheel is to grind it on a Blanchard or something similar.
The flywheel gets held down to a rotating table that is magnetized and it turns the flywheel while the stone or cutter resurfaces it. You should see a " C C C C " pattern all the way around the flywheel when it's done correctly.
A flywheel should never be turned on a lathe or a brake late. It is not the correct way to cut one.
The flywheel gets held down to a rotating table that is magnetized and it turns the flywheel while the stone or cutter resurfaces it. You should see a " C C C C " pattern all the way around the flywheel when it's done correctly.
A flywheel should never be turned on a lathe or a brake late. It is not the correct way to cut one.
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So much to learn...
I really appreciate all the help and info here...everyone, thanks alot!
Today, I have a friend coming by that did a column to floorshift one time. Hopefully, we can figure out how to attach the Hurst to transmission while the transmission is out on the ground and get it somewhat working. Then remove if need be, install the transmission, and put everything back together.
This has turned into a lot bigger job than I thought it would be. Maybe things will start falling together today after we get started. Just hoping to get truck running again soon and see how my wayward flywheel turned out.
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I really appreciate all the help and info here...everyone, thanks alot!
Today, I have a friend coming by that did a column to floorshift one time. Hopefully, we can figure out how to attach the Hurst to transmission while the transmission is out on the ground and get it somewhat working. Then remove if need be, install the transmission, and put everything back together.
This has turned into a lot bigger job than I thought it would be. Maybe things will start falling together today after we get started. Just hoping to get truck running again soon and see how my wayward flywheel turned out.
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Looks to go something like this?:
Other Hurst Bracket Parts:
My question is: Is this how the shifter faces, close to the bracket, or should it flip around 180? This looks about right to me...need a few bolts...
And it does look like special attention to where the speedometer gear/cable connects to transmission. Have it attached and mount bracket over it sounds best maybe...will have to see...
Other Hurst Bracket Parts:
My question is: Is this how the shifter faces, close to the bracket, or should it flip around 180? This looks about right to me...need a few bolts...
And it does look like special attention to where the speedometer gear/cable connects to transmission. Have it attached and mount bracket over it sounds best maybe...will have to see...