I have a super chips programmer series 1805.I have heard a lot about programmers and there problems i have a 2004 f-250 cold air straight exhaust 4 inch lift 35 inch tires i have ran it at the 1/8 mile track in 4x4 and the only problem i have had is the FICM replaced "TODAY" so i wonder why all the bad hpe over this programmer.

 

If you have heard about a lot of problems with programmers doesnt that kind of answer your own question?

Just because you haven't had problems yet doesn't mean you won't. You pay to play.

 

A friendly word of caution. If your going to modify these trucks you had really better know what you are doing. Otherwise you will be one of the many cryin' the blues about 6.0 PSD problems.

If I was going to modify my truck I sure wouldn't use the Super Chips programmer. My F250 represents a major financial investment and I would never consider racing it. SuperDuty trucks were designed for towing heavy loads not running the 1/8 mile track. Just my 2 cents.

 

It's not that the superchips is "bad". It's just that the SCT and Spartan are that much better. Superchips is a "generic" programmer that is made to fit "all" conditions in a stock truck (or with exhaust and CAI). The Spartan and SCT can be custom programmed to your specific needs.

 

The problem is that most of the people that yell out about having tuner related problems have the weakest type of evidence, which is timing of it all.


"I put a tuner on my truck, then I had headgasket(or whatever issue) problems, therefore the tuner caused the headgasket problem."

Now the tuner may have well indeed caused the problem, but you can't say for sure based on that. I could come up with a really out there example that follows that same logic and I doubt(or atleast hope that everyone) everyone would subscribe to it.

The 6.0 had more of it's share of issues, some manufacture related and a majority of it related to lack of knowledge both from drivers and techs when it first came out.

Unless people pressured tested the heads before they put a tuner on(or similar testing), there is no way to say for sure that it didn't come from the factory with bad bolts, or the driving before the tuner could have loosened them(there are a lot of uneducated bad drivers driving this things), or it could have very well been the tuner, but without doing something to test heads before you put the tuner on there, "you" can't truly make the claim that alot of people are trying to make.

I'm not saying that tuners don't cause their fair share of problems, but I truly doubt that the numbers of claims about tuners causing problems are truly representative of those incidents.

 

I'm on board with tex... High egts, lack of attention to maintence all play a big role. The headgaskets and bolts are weak yes. Most if not all of the trucks with those issues have more than likely had at some point a coolant loss problem. Weither is be a busted egr cooler, bad oil cooler or simply allowing the truck to get low on coolant from puking. I would be willing to bet over 70% of head gasket issues are directly related solely to the egr system on the 6.0.... I say this and point out the egr system on the 6.4... It is a lot larger cooler and has a lot less problems. The superchips tuners were good when they came out but the sct tuners allow custom tuning where most tuners do a better job of tuning the truck to produce the hp. The custom tunes address fuel tables, timing, boost etc to produce power. I would make sure to watch my temps as with any tune I have ran the egts can get hot quick, an exaust helps but does not prevent them from getting there.

 

Thank you all for the info but since i got the new FICM and came home i havent reprogrammed it and i am getting bad miles per gallon,it is crazy i dont understand why on perfomance it gets better fuel mileage.

 

Typically all the higher horsepower tunes get better fuel mileage IF you can keep your foot off the skinny pedal. It's EXCEPTIONALLY hard to go back to driving a stock truck once you've driven a tuned truck for a while. There is so much difference in performance and accelleraton that it's not even funny. The key is self-control.

 

yes it is from the day i bought the truck i had the work done to it this is the first time i have drove my truck without the program its bad and the fuel mileage is bad i just got a new FICM so i am trying to give it a week to make sure all is good but man i drive like a grandpa like everyone says but the truck is so different.

 

I too have the Superchip tuner. You dont talk about having any gauges to monitor what your tuner is doing. The basic gauges are Pyro, boost, and tranny temp gauges. Monitor your gauges closely and you can prevent getting in trouble!
Carefull about the Grandpa remarks, a lot of us are in that bracket and have a lot of wisdom to share!
Nick

 

My grand parents drag race to the speed limit and sometimes beyond.... I vividly remember my grand dad buying their old 98 explorer..... That 5.0 in that thing would scream for a grandma ride he got a ticket 50 in a 35 the first couple of days

 

Just messing around with the Grandpa saying but i have been told it to me a 100 times and my reply is i havent had a ticket in 24 years knock on wood.

 

The irony is these new diesel trucks don't really take much towards "grandpa" and "grandma" drivers. Every now and then you want to get the revs on up there after the truck gets up to operating temp. If you don't do this occasionally between the EGR and the turbo, you'll have some headaches. Now if all you have the stock ECT gauge, then I would wait about 5-10 minutes after the stock gauge reads normal temp before having fun and in the winter it would be 15-20 minutes(depending on how bad your winters can get, this is going off of the winters that I experience).

 

yes i do push it when i snuezz the alarm at 300 am and i am late going to work, you dont want that to happen being in the oil fild right now;( here in Texas i think we should be good on 10 min because the engine will still be hot from the summer

 

Sounds to me like you need a custom tune for the truck rather than a generic one. That will help your truck run more effently, I had my 6.0L custom tuned by cundn racing and I love those guys. They did a great job, I had a Superchips and will never go back.