We had an Amsoil dealer as an advertiser once a couple of years ago. It lasted a month. Within a week, other dealers posted and people from competing small oil companies and it ended up being a stupid cat fight. I get approached by Amsoil dealer almost every month asking to advertise... I tell them "no thanks."

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 07-May-02 AT 03:47 PM (EST)]Ken,

I thought that the other post I responded to was saying that the cars lasted so long because of the amSOIL (I'm pretty sure he was).

I do agree with you that dino shoud not be run at the same extended drains as synth.

Later
Stab


BTW, I have worked around government for a long time and I can't imagine ever in my wildest dreams that a public college would use $7 per quart oil regardless of the length of the interval. Also how much is a amSOIL oil filter? You can buy a premium brand oil filter in bulk for about a dollar. Please tell us which college does this.

Why were your vehicles ran so far over service when using conventional oil? That is pure laziness on the people who are charged with upkeep on the cars. If the cars are signed out to people they should pay attention to the mileage. If this was happening the boss needed to kick a few people in the ***. Maybe a one day suspension for every 500 miles over due for the person responsible for the cars would cure this. That was our policy and cars were never ran over mileage.

 

I am amazed that this thread has survived for over a year. A very sensitive subject.

To summarize what I've read:







Did I miss anything?

Jet aircraft have used synthetics lubricants from day one. The biggest reason was because they were the only type of lubricants that could withstand the extreme operating conditions that jets experience. I can takeoff in my 1986 G100 corporate jet (www.gulfstream.com) from Phoenix in the summer at 100F+ and within 25 minutes be at 41,000 where the outside temp is a chilly -60C. At that cruise altitude my engine interstage turbine temp is sitting at 850C. I have no idea what temp the oil is seeing in the bearings, but I know that after going through the fuel/oil cooler the oil temp is a constant 80C. The wheel bearing grease must really be stiff after being cold soaked for 5-6 hours at that -60C before a 30 minute descent and then being asked to spin up from zero to 140 mph in an instant.

An experiment you can try at home is to drain the dino from your lawnmower, put in some synthetic and give it a pull. Mine pulls alot easier, and I imagine a snowblower in the winter would even be a better example.

As a new user I apperciate the desire to keep ALL advertising off the message boards, however, I also want to hear other's experiences so I can learn what works and what doesn't.

Mike

 

Ken, Finally got my club fte stuff love ther shirt. About the cost of amsoil in our case it is about 1.85 per quart based on the amount we purchase plus the fact that we pay no taxes on it and the filters run about 2.10 each I also disagree with their marketing stategies. However we buy direct from Amsoil not from a distributor so we cut out alot of the "middle men". We just tore down one of our Police Cruisers at 435,000mi just on principal and as a test and the cylinder wear was still in spec with just .001" taper. I agree that most synthetics could probably do this as well. Also it might suprise some people just how hard a "college professor" can be on a car that they have no financial responsibility for. I was not "promoting Amsoil over other synthetics just telling of my personal experiences.

 

>However we buy
>direct from Amsoil not from a distributor so we cut out alot
>of the "middle men".

How are you buying direct at dealer prices if you aren't a dealer? Did you or did you not (or your company) signup with Amsoil?

 

Yes we did open an account. But we can purchase direct because we are a state academic institution. At least that is how the upper management at the school explained it to me. We are not allowed to sell the product even to employees. But when you buy 1500 to 3000 gallons of product a month. they let you do all kinds of things that normally do not happen we buy for all 7 of the A&M schools in the state at the same time. So we are not dealers even thou we do get dealer pricing. Also by product we buy oil, transmission fluid, gear lube, hydraulic fluid and synthetic grease in addition to about 500 filters a month.

 

>But when you buy 1500 to 3000 gallons of product
>a month.

3,000 gallons of motor oil is 12,000 quarts, at 6 quarts per vehicle that's 2,000 oil changes a month! If you go six months or more between oil changes, that implies that you use Amsoil in 12,000 vehicles???

>in addition to about 500 filters a month.

That's very impressive. You must *really* like the Amsoil products.

 

Signed up as a dealer. Get's dealer pricing. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ---- its a duck.

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Ken, Thats fine after all it is your website. However I am not a dealer. All I was doing was puting forth some experiance I have had with the product due to where I work. Personally I do not use Amsoil in my personal automobiles I run Castrol Syntech due the fact that if I wanted to use Amsoil I would have to go to a dealer and like you I disagree with multilevel marketing. The decision to use The oil in question at my work was made and supported at a hugher pay grade than mine.

 

Two years and three pages of replies! Ken, is this an all-time record?

Jim

 

What's all this animosity towards Amsoil dealers? I think it's a great product, and yes i'm a dealer, but I only did that so I could get discounts and buy it for cheaper. I honestly never knew that Amsoil was an MLM, which is now making me rethink whether i'm going to renew my membership when it expires in a couple months. I love the oil, but am not comfortable about the fact that it's MLM. My brother sold stuff for Amway a while back and got seriously burned as did lots of Amway dealers. I don't visit very many message boards, so i'm not familiar with some of the sleezy things that some of you guys mention various Amsoil dealers doing.


2002 True Blue SVT Lightning
-all stock and will stay stock

 

Its not the products I have a problem with --- just with Amway, Amsoil has good products. Its just that tons of dealers have spammed the site, all using similar underhanded techniques, and I've seen the same tactics used on the Usenet newgroups for many years.

 

Just a couple of questions-----Does oil only last 3000 miles, is the filter done after 3000 miles. I would think in 2002 things would of changed. After all these years we are doing the same.

 

I can't believe I read the whooooole thread! And to think that all these years I thouhgt AMSOIL was nothing more than morning dirt.


B

 

Annulata, you mention that "independent tests" show a 50 degree drop in differential temperatures using a synthetic-- I think I got that right.

I'd appreciate hearing who did those tests, and whether and where they are published.

I am interested in these tests, because I have heard very good news about the synthetics from a variety of sources, EXCEPT for differential oil. Someone who I would rate as the leading gear specialist in the area I live in is actively involved in racing etc., but he does not recommend synthetics for gear oil.

I take it that you are not a dealer?

Thanks for any info.