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Anyone here have a hydrogen generator on their IDI?

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Old 07-27-2009, 05:30 PM
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Anyone here have a hydrogen generator on their IDI?

Just curious if anyone has one of these on their diesel. Im thinking about trying to make one for my 7.3 N/A diesel. I dont really want to waste my time though if it is impractical or ineffective. If noone heres got one on theirs then Ill do it and post the results for yall to read.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:14 PM
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I am not a rocket scientist but I don't think the hydrogen will ignite. I think the hydrogen setups are for gasoline only because it needs an ignition to combust.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:17 PM
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Ive been researching them a little bit and i know they will work on diesels, but i dont know if their is a difference between the gas and diesel ones
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 06:23 PM
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they are all a buncha gimmicks!
 
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I'd love to know how it works if you do make one. Theres a guy I work with who makes his own "generators" with stuff he scrounges up and boughten electrical components. He put one on an older Escort and swears the thing works. I see know reason why it wouldn't work on a diesel, afterall, the combusting fuel would be enough to ignite the hydro. Keep us posted.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:10 PM
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the hydrogen generators are actually more effective on a diesel engine if you have the right set up our alt. fuels teacher said that they did it on a mac truck and saw almost a 50% increase in fuel milage and power and 75% less emissions im really thinkin bout doin this on mine.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:21 PM
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If you think about it we have the perfect test vehicles for this since there are no sensors/emissions that regulate fuel delivery or throw codes when somethin different is sensed. I'm open minded enough to listen to someone who gives it an honest try...
 
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once i get some more info i think im gunna do it
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:48 PM
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well keep us posted my friend was convinced and tried it on an older toyota gasser and it worked but got worse millage due to the 02 sensor. he installed the o2 sensor to make it a little leaner and it got better miles but it would have done that with or without the generator then. But he didnt see anything signifigant.
 
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Well id like to try this on mine, and my grandpa wants one for his 95 Powerstroke. Guess ill build 2 and see who it does better for. lol

Now i just got to figure out how to build one of these things.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:12 PM
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metal + water + 12v to put it simple.

might have to use baking soda to help speed up the process. the more surface area the more bubbles. you will need an amp clamp to meter how much you make and for what wiring to run safely. also need a relay so its an on off switch. and sealed up with a tube to the intake.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:22 PM
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anybody have a link to some free plans? I get the general idea behind it, but what i really need is to see it all laid out, know what I mean>?
 
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Originally Posted by doube_zero
I am not a rocket scientist but I don't think the hydrogen will ignite. I think the hydrogen setups are for gasoline only because it needs an ignition to combust.
you definitely are not a rocket scientist, hydrogen will ignite, in fact that's what rockets are propelled with. hydrogen and oxygen.
 
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:20 PM
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I don't want to come off like an ***, but, I think we've known since forever that hydrogen is definitely a combustible. Think back into history, Thursday May 6th, 1937.
 
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Not to pick nits but Mythbusters did a show on that "event" and concluded that there was absolutely no way that hydrogen alone made that spectacular of a fireball. Their conclusion was that a mixture of metals in the outer coating acted like thermite and created the famous fireball... Not exactly 100% relevant, just thought some might like to know...
 


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