another dreaded oil question......
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another dreaded oil question......
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-Dec-02 AT 04:21 AM (EST)]Is it safe to say that the synthetic oils offered by the major oil companies are actually hydroprocessed dino with the exception of Mobil 1 ?
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another dreaded oil question......
>Is it safe to say that the synthetic oils offered by the
>major oil companies are actually hydroprocessed dino with
>the exception of Mobil 1 ?
Yes, and I think Mobil One is now hydroprocessed oil as is Amsoil.
>major oil companies are actually hydroprocessed dino with
>the exception of Mobil 1 ?
Yes, and I think Mobil One is now hydroprocessed oil as is Amsoil.
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-Dec-02 AT 11:57 AM (EST)]Probably not. Chevron lists a diester base. Others may be a blend. Mobil has not been 100% PAO for a while now.
Oops, Valvloline is another one. The MSDS for Synpower lists "HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE" as the main ingredient.
Jim
Oops, Valvloline is another one. The MSDS for Synpower lists "HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE" as the main ingredient.
Jim
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another dreaded oil question......
>Probably not. Chevron lists a diester base. Others may be a
>blend. Mobil has not been 100% PAO for a while now.
>
>Oops, Valvloline is another one. The MSDS for Synpower lists
>"HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE" as the main
>ingredient.
>
>
I was under the impression it was 100% PAO plus additives. What do they substitute in place of the PAO base and what percentages?
>blend. Mobil has not been 100% PAO for a while now.
>
>Oops, Valvloline is another one. The MSDS for Synpower lists
>"HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE" as the main
>ingredient.
>
>
I was under the impression it was 100% PAO plus additives. What do they substitute in place of the PAO base and what percentages?
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another dreaded oil question......
I called Mobil a few months ago and asked them what "Tri-Synthetic" and "Super-Syn" meant. They didn't tell me the proportions, but both contain PAO, esters and alkylated napthalenes. "Super-Syn" has a different additive package for the API SL requirements. So, no 100% PAO anymore. Esters are also a "true" (group V) synthetic chemistry.
Jim
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another dreaded oil question......
>Probably not. Chevron lists a diester base. Others may be a
>blend. Mobil has not been 100% PAO for a while now.
>
>Oops, Valvloline is another one. The MSDS for Synpower lists
>"HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE" as the main
>ingredient.
>
>
>Jim
Newbie question
What is this MSDS, and where can I find him ?
Larry
>blend. Mobil has not been 100% PAO for a while now.
>
>Oops, Valvloline is another one. The MSDS for Synpower lists
>"HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC DISTILLATE" as the main
>ingredient.
>
>
>Jim
Newbie question
What is this MSDS, and where can I find him ?
Larry
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another dreaded oil question......
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 27-Dec-02 AT 00:08 AM (EST)]>
>Newbie question
>
>What is this MSDS, and where can I find him ?
>
>Larry
Material
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Data
Sheet
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>Newbie question
>
>What is this MSDS, and where can I find him ?
>
>Larry
Material
Safety
Data
Sheet
Manufacturer's Web site (Exxon, Shell, Chevron, etc.)
OBTW...Welcome to the Oil forum. It's a real "slick" place to hang out!
Brian A
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I just did a little web searching, it looks like Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 is definitely the Good Stuff (but pricey).
55%-65% (1-Decene Homopolymer (PAO))
5%-15% (Solvent dewaxed paraffinic distillate)
1.5% (Zinc alkyl dithiophosphate)
1.5% (Boron aminated polybutenyl)
1% (Butene, homopolymer)
So it looks like Delvac 1 is made from 2/3 PAO, plus up to 15% dino distillate, and the rest is EP additives and the like.
-Bill
55%-65% (1-Decene Homopolymer (PAO))
5%-15% (Solvent dewaxed paraffinic distillate)
1.5% (Zinc alkyl dithiophosphate)
1.5% (Boron aminated polybutenyl)
1% (Butene, homopolymer)
So it looks like Delvac 1 is made from 2/3 PAO, plus up to 15% dino distillate, and the rest is EP additives and the like.
-Bill
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another dreaded oil question......
>>
>>Newbie question
>>
>>What is this MSDS, and where can I find him ?
>>
>>Larry
>
>Material
>Safety
>Data
>Sheet
>
>Manufacturer's Web site (Exxon, Shell, Chevron, etc.)
>
>OBTW...Welcome to the Oil forum. It's a real "slick" place
>to hang out!
>
>Brian A
Hehe. Thanks
Larry
>>Newbie question
>>
>>What is this MSDS, and where can I find him ?
>>
>>Larry
>
>Material
>Safety
>Data
>Sheet
>
>Manufacturer's Web site (Exxon, Shell, Chevron, etc.)
>
>OBTW...Welcome to the Oil forum. It's a real "slick" place
>to hang out!
>
>Brian A
Hehe. Thanks
Larry
