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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Lean on both banks?

This is on an 03 4x4 5.4 It is showing lean codes for both banks. The truck has 185k miles on it. I'm going to start with a fuel filter because I dont think it has ever been changed. Hopefully that will fix it but, my luck is never that good so i'm already wondering what else it could be. Do bad 02s read lean when they go bad? It runs fine. I know it could be a number of things but what is most common on this truck for this problem?

Also the wipers dont work right. They stop at random and wont move unless I mess with the switch. It does it on every speed. I'm guessing it just needs a switch?

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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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A bad fuel pump can also cause lean, but the pump can be tested. Vacuum leaks are a common problem and can cause a lean condition. MAFs usually err on the lean side when they get dirty. O2 sensors loose signal strength over time, and the computer will interpret it as lean. However, lean codes are set when the computer errors out on an extreme and the engine is still lean when the correction still doesn't work. It is a good idea to replace the sensors if they have over 80K on them, but vacuum leak is a more than likely suspect.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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i agree with Bear. start by pulling each small black rubber vacuum line and connector off one at a time and see if it is hard, cracked, or loose on the fitting. I had that on a F150, lean codes due to bad vacuum hoses. hard and cracked due to age. heat.
 
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Bah! Just follow the PCV hose and inspect its elbows, especially the one back facing the firewall.

The one back there accounts for most of the "lean on both banks" DTCs.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Ok I will try that. Thanks guys. Thoughts on the wiper issue?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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The wiper issue is the switch.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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This is the front elbow the back elbow is worse but on the inside and could not tell till it was off.
Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Bah! Just follow the PCV hose and inspect its elbows, especially the one back facing the firewall.

The one back there accounts for most of the "lean on both banks" DTCs.
 

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