Heeey Mr. Wilson...what the hell is a 1964 1/2 Mustang?

I know Ford had a 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500XL, which was the fastback model, but Ford never refered to the Mustang as anything other than a 1965.

The early '65's didn't offer a fastback, came with 170 and 260 engines (in addition to the 200, 289 and 289 HiPo), the later 1965's did not.

What other things changed between the early/late? What's the cut-off date?

I know more about these Mustangs than I do about any Ford truck...so tread lightly.

btw: The revamped Econoline made its debut in February 1968, what year is it?

Since there is no such thing as a 1968 Econoline, it's gotta be a 1969.

Ford was famous (or in-famous as the case may be) for introducing new models early.

Ditto for the Maverick, Mark III, Ranger. All were introduced waaay early in the previous year. So there's no 1969 Maverick, 1968 Mark III or 1982 Ranger, either.

 

is this not correct information?

The world's first Ford Mustang was conceived by Robert S. McNamara in 1962 and the project was named T-5.

At the World’s Fair in Flushing Meadows, New York on April 17 1964 Lee Iacocca and Ford unveiled the 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang to the world with a sticker base price of $2,360.00 USD.

The Mustang came in convertible and coupe with those made prior to September 1964 labeled as 1964 1/2.

In all 100,000 Ford Mustangs sold in the first 90 days.

The very first Mustang, a convertible, was sold by accident to an airline pilot in Newfoundland.

Ford managed to buy it back, and it now is parked in the company's museum.


64 1/2 Ford Mustang

 

The Great Mustang Debate: 1964½ or 1965
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...16/457244.html

[conclusion]
Technically, all of the original Ford Mustangs are 1965 models because all carry a 1965 model year Vehicle Identification Number (VIN).

[then again]
"The MCA (Mustang Club of America) accepts the 1964½ as a model year because we view it as a different car.”

 

The 1965 Mustang went on sale nationwide on April 23, 1964, the last early model was made August 22, 1964, or as parts catalogs say: before 8/23/1964.

The hood is different on the early cars, betcha didn't know that.

Dealers wanted a hood nose moulding, none was available. The way the early hood's (C5ZZ16612A) sheet metal folds over at the front, necessitated a new hood design (C5ZZ16612B) so the nose moulding (C5ZZ16856A) would fit.

How many Mustang part numbers began with C4ZZ? N-O-N-E!

The early cars used a generator, the later cars (from 8/23/64) an alternator. The steering wheel and the horn ring are also different.

The front fender Mustang script is 1/4 of an inch longer on the later stuff.

The early 289 engine is not the same as the later 289. Number of bolt holes on the back of the engine (5 as opposed to 6 for the later stuff).

The waterpump is aluminium on the early cars, cast iron on the later stuff.

I could type pages of ths jazz, but...I've been on FTE for 13 STRAIGHT hours, so it's time for a break.

 

LOL...I love this thread...when it comes to Mustang stuff I know and have for a good while now that there were no C4 p/n on it...
I thought it was introduced 4/22/65...but didnt know the 1st one was sold to a foreign airline captain..
As for the Henry Ford Museum at Greenfield Village...its a positive must must must must MUST see...theres more stuff there then you can shake a stick at...and its not all automotive related...I think Industrial Revolution era stuff would be a good overall fit..trains,planes, kitchen appliances and a moving 'assembly line' with, last I saw 1st generation Escort parts hanging from it...the place is massive...and thats just the museum...Greenfield Village is another jaw dropper...Edisons lab, Websters House where he wrote the 1st dictionary and a few others...however I was told on the tour that the buildings were recreations from the originals.
I could write a book on it...its not a cheap tour...25 in the early 90s for an all day ticket to both features...a day is nowhere near enough time to take in fully and digest everything...
As for the new cars Detroit is turning out...I like the looks of the new Camaro and Challenger as well asof course the Mustang...As for dealers being closed and bought out and so on...it does make sense in theory...but with the economy in the crapper...its a huge roll of the dice.
I just hope things mellow out soon...


- cs65

 

Thank's for the History lesson, Mr Wilson

some one like me can only read the internet which is not always correct.

 

Since this thread is about ranting and it turned to Mustangs, I would like to say that my beef is that there are alot of Mustang enthusiasts out there that don't seem to realize Ford made other types of vehicles. It's mustang, mustang, mustang, with some of those guys, and I don't think alot of them want to admit that it was originally just a gussied up Falcon/Comet, which I think was a more interesting car with more variations in bodystyles. I know some of the guys on here have mustangs so that's why I specified some people are like that, but for me, I think Fomoco built so many interesting vehicles (well up until '79 or so), that it doesn't make sense to limit your knowledge to only one model.

 

Well, I went out and bought a 96 F350/4x/CC/7.3/ZF5speed with a Gear Vendor OD, and a BD exhaust brake and 84k miles,,, that now brings the total trucks in the fleet back up to 5! And I had agreed a few years ago that I would stay below 5,, so now myself and the Finance Committee have come to another agreement (under duress and coercion) that 2 need to find new home, HOWEVER, I stated the case that $2800 was the lowest I would go because I have WAAAAY more than that into both of them in money and time. So,,,, if they don't go for 2800 they get non-op when the tags are due and they will just get driven around the property and roads close to home.
In a perfect truck world, they would all come to Joe's garage and never leave!!!! But alas, reality bites!! Of course I bring up the fact to the Finance Comittee that I paid less for 4 of them than for the pretty rock on her left hand. Then SHE brings up the fact that her "ring" never gets new parts and the attention that the "fleet" does,,, it is a never ending circle!! Soooo we shall see,,,,,

 

Pickupmanx2,
Sounds like your fighting the good fight. Stick to your gunz, and I will pray for you LOL. I have at this point 8 trucks and Two are my sons trucks that are in the process of getting restored and then go away. I hear your pain and I just hope that whoever gets your trucks knows what a deal they are getting and will take care of them as you have.
JRB65

 

The museum is pretty cool. Been there once as a kid and once as an adult.