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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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does a sct x3 and a sct livewire basically do the same thing or are they totaly different monsters? i will also need gauges so would the features and probes on the live wire be good enough or do i need some other type of gauges? i also like the ability of the livewire to shift tunes while driving down the road versus having to stop and plug up the x3 to switch from tow to race or whatever. not sure what i should go with. Please help. Thanks
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:41 AM
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I think the two are the same with the exception of the display and gauge options of the livewire. I would think you would need an exhaust probe for the livewire if it has that option. I also have an SCT in my future but just not sure which one. I have gauges already so the x3 may be my choice.

Someone should chime in shortly with a little more specific and accurate info.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GRAY MULE
does a sct x3 and a sct livewire basically do the same thing or are they totaly different monsters? i will also need gauges so would the features and probes on the live wire be good enough or do i need some other type of gauges?
LiveWire is hit or miss on reliability issues, so I really wouldn't try to mess with that. I would either do the X3 or the Spartan tuner.

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i also like the ability of the livewire to shift tunes while driving down the road versus having to stop and plug up the x3 to switch from tow to race or whatever. not sure what i should go with. Please help. Thanks
To my knowledge LiveWire is not shift on the fly and besides that shift on the fly is the worst thing that you can put on the 6.0. The 6.0 has certain weaknesses and those weaknesses are exploited with that type of tuning device.

Most of the time, shift on the fly devices are in-line fuel modules and not tuners which the LiveWire is. Modules fool sensors in order to make power, they are not actually programming any of the vehicles computers(there are 3 main ones that you would be concerned with for making power). The only tuner that is shift on the fly to my knowledge are the ones from BullyDog and those use variable fueling tables to make power, which also isn't good.

Shift on the fly is mutually exclusive from properly tuning the vehicle. Think of it as a computer program that requires you to restart the computer for all features to act properly. Shift on the fly means you are not restarting the computer. Besides that, after awhile you end up just sticking with one tune most of the time(I used to have shift on the fly, so I'm speaking from experience here).

While Shift on the fly might seem appealing, it's a novelty that actually does more harm then good, particularly when you're putting it on a 6.0.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. Thank you tex25025 I never really thought of it being like a computer but it makes sense it would have to reboot or restart just like any other computer when you change any parameters, makes sense. Im thinking then the way to go would be the X3 with a set of good gauges in the cab. Thanks
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Hey Zip I noticed that you have the Isspro gauges. I have heard several on here has those do you like yours? Would you recommend them?
 
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Originally Posted by GRAY MULE
Thanks for the input guys. Thank you tex25025 I never really thought of it being like a computer but it makes sense it would have to reboot or restart just like any other computer when you change any parameters, makes sense. Im thinking then the way to go would be the X3 with a set of good gauges in the cab. Thanks
I have Isspro in my truck. They are said to be good quality. What could be better than them not only being functional they look cool.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Hey Zip I noticed that you have the Isspro gauges. I have heard several on here has those do you like yours? Would you recommend them?
Yes I think they are one of the preffered brands. I am happy with them. I bought them on Craigslist new from a guy that sold his truck so they were never installed. He got them through Diesel Manor. Instalation was pretty easy mainly because the instructions were so good.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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That sounds good thanks. From what I have read on here its either the isspro or ammeter seems like everyone prefers.
 
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That sounds good thanks. From what I have read on here its either the isspro or ammeter seems like everyone prefers.
Autometer is what I have. It is a little more costlier then some, but I've had them for going on 3 yrs and no issues. I'm happy with it.
 
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