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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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RIP Lt. Brian Bradshaw

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...1:b26239298:z0

Did not know him, but he gave his life for his country,
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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"He had old-fashioned values and believed that military service was patriotic and that actions counted more than talk," Gillis wrote. "He wasn't much for talking, although he could communicate volumes with a raised eyebrow."

Bradshaw, who graduated from Pacific Lutheran University, was the product of a military family. His father, Paul, is a retired National Guard helicopter pilot, and his mother is a retired Army nurse.

"He was a search-and-rescue volunteer, an altar boy, a camp counselor," Gillis' letter continued. "He carried the hopes and dreams of his parents willingly on his shoulders. What more than that did Michael Jackson do or represent that earned him memorial 'shrines,' while this soldier's death goes unheralded?"
How pathetic that one our finest is killed in service of our country and it goes unnoticed by most, yet a celebrity dies and the "world is in mourning."

God speed, Lt. Bradshaw.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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I agree TT.

Its called misguided worship. We as a nation have totally lost focus on what really is important.

We can praise a man who had absolutely no morals or character but someone who loved life, who loved people, who was an amazing person, who was not rich in the money sense but was rich in heart and spirit is just a little blurb here or there.

I am sure there are people who would have a near fatal heart attack if one of the channels interrupted their MJ coverage to show a news story on a soldier who has died.

I say there should be a "debris" channel for coverage such as MJ, Farrah etc. lets also have a hero channel dedicated to nothing but heroes..REAL heroes.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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I view Lt. Bradshaw's life as far more important to me than Jackson's.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Sorry for turning this into a "what's wrong with the general public" thread. It was not my intention. I was so disgusted reading about this young man while watching the incessant news coverage on Jackson's memorial. We, as a country, memorialize the wrong people too many times.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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That is the sad fact that people today look at celebrities as idols and people to espouse to be. People like Lt. Bradshaw are the true hero's of our time.

The only solder that received any true press was Pat Tillman when he was killed in Afghanistan.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Its okay TT its just all of us "mourning" in our own way.
we didn't know these soldiers, tho some here have known one or two who have. It is hard for me as a mom, a sister, an aunt, a grandmother, an american to see these people dying like they are. I know there are reasons on an "order form" but it is still hard to fathom.
I would rather my daughter heather if she were to die..go in her sleep, anything but in a country where the majority would just as soon spit on her as look at her. But it is out of my control.
I stand here today and say thank you to every soldier who is out there but to every mom, dad, sister, brother etc who watched their family member go off to a land of pure uncertainty.

say a prayer today for everyone
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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People like us here are aware of the sacrifice of true hero's, this forum takes a much more realistic pulse of everyday folks values...........Something you will never get from the lame stream media.........Lt. Bradshaw died for his country, he didnt ask for adulation, just to do his job and come home with honor...............Something a morally bankrupt celebrity could never grasp, but he gets the recognition.....Pathetic.
We NEED to see those flag draped coffins coming home on USAF C-5s and C-17s, we need to see the true hero's and know that freedom does not come free!.....Unsavory, has been, celebrities who kick off, should be a back page footnote.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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I asked this once before but does anyone know what celebrities or celebrity children (of todays age) that is military ro has children in military?

the only one i know of is Dr. laura. I know the stars go over and do USO stuff but have any really been in any military branch that has seen a conflict? (remember no pre 80's conflicts)
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Don't believe everything you see on television. Most people respect and appreciate the sacrifice made by the men and women of our armed forces. But dignity and respect don't sell papers. Rumors about sleeping in an airtight chamber with a chimpanzee sells papers.

Peter King is just another pimp, looking to salvage what's left of Jackson's notoriety to get his own name in the papers.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny terror
Sorry for turning this into a "what's wrong with the general public" thread. It was not my intention. I was so disgusted reading about this young man while watching the incessant news coverage on Jackson's memorial. We, as a country, memorialize the wrong people too many times.

I don't think the young lad's family would be in anyway offended by anything you said.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by websthes
Peter King is just another pimp, looking to salvage what's left of Jackson's notoriety to get his own name in the papers.
I think the congressman was just speaking the truth. A "pimp looking to salvage what's left of Jackson's notoriety"? What the hell does that even mean? What do they put in the water up there?

This was from the article linked in the original post:

the aunt of a U.S. soldier killed in Afghanistan on the same day Jackson died asked why her nephew's death went virtually unnoticed while the King of Pop got memorial shrines across the country.
Believe it or not, I understand the disparity in coverage completely. Jackson was probably one of the most easily identifiable people in the world. Anyone, anywhere knew who he was. He sold millions of records in a career that spanned five different decades. He also had a popular video or two back when MTV actually played music.His JOB was to be in the public eye and his death and the ensuing nauseating coverage is just a continuation of that. (For the record, I had no use for the guy or 99% of his music. I thought his actions and his lifestyle were disgusting).

Lt Bradshaw on the other hand, died as several thousand others have over the last eight years or so - doing what his country asked him to do and what he volunteered to do. I'm guessing he served because he wanted to and felt it was the right thing to do. He wasn't doing it for fame, fortune or so that his every move could make Entertainment Tonight. His life, death, and he, will be quickly forgotten by everyone except those that knew him. Although what he died doing was for all of us, he will go down in history as just another name on a wall. I think those of us in the military accept that as part of the deal.

I never said I like it, but I do understand it.

May they both rest in peace.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aztrainer
The only solder that received any true press was Pat Tillman when he was killed in Afghanistan.
And had it not been for the fact that he had been an NFL player, his story would probably never have seen an inch of press.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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What do they put in the water up there?
As a Canadian, it's hard not to notice how much the American people support their armed forces. But like I said, the majority do it with dignity. A yellow ribbon, a neatly trimmed war cemetary.

I personally find it demeans the sacrifice of our armed forces to mention them in the same breath as the allegations made about Michael Jackson.



the aunt of a U.S. soldier killed in Afghanistan on the same day Jackson died asked why her nephew's death went virtually unnoticed while the King of Pop got memorial shrines across the country.
The Bush administration directed the Pentagon not to allow journalists to photograph the coffins of fallen soldiers.

The media complied with the administration's request to censor the war.

When you have a media that is not committed to reporting the hard facts, all you have left is "soft news". Stories about celebrities, car accidents.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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A photograph of a flag draped coffin is not necessary to report "A young soldier died today. Lt. Bradshaw is survived by...." There was never a request to censor the war, it was a request for respect to the families who were mourning their fallen. I would say the same for any other funeral or ceremony of the sort. It is unnecessary to stand around snapping pictures at such an event. Words can be just as powerful and this young man deserved a headline.
 
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