Notices
2007 - 2014 Expedition & Navigator 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator

Another problem...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:54 AM
  #1  
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,157
Likes: 3
Another problem...

Well got the transmission squeal while accelerating fixed(changed the friction plates) and now the fan clutch is acting up again. When I start the car in the morning, the fan engages for about 20 seconds of driving, then goes off. In the afternoon it never DISengages. It's like an airplane taking off. I finally drove it to the dealer while this was happening and took the tech for a ride. He said the 08's fan clutch changed and it's now controlled by two sensors and a thermostat. I said great, but this isn't normal.

Long story short he is going to look at a similar Expy and see if it does it-I don't care if it does, this is not right!-then replace the fan clutch. It's always something with my ride. Ok, rant over.
 
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 11:26 AM
  #2  
Tylus's Avatar
Tylus
MMNC (SS)(Ret)
Veteran: Navy
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 11,607
Likes: 151
From: SE Georgia
Club FTE Silver Member

that sucks man

so the newer Expy has e-fans? I haven't really been under my hood much, but I thought they were the traditional friction clutch fans that were belt driven
 
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 11:54 AM
  #3  
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,157
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by tylus
that sucks man

so the newer Expy has e-fans? I haven't really been under my hood much, but I thought they were the traditional friction clutch fans that were belt driven
I am not sure how it works. He said the older ones had a thermostat in the clutch and the 08's and newer have that AND are controlled by two sensors. I think it's still belt driven, just the computer has control over when it kicks on and off.
 
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 04:11 PM
  #4  
Tylus's Avatar
Tylus
MMNC (SS)(Ret)
Veteran: Navy
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 11,607
Likes: 151
From: SE Georgia
Club FTE Silver Member

That is retarded

somthing that has worked great for 60+ years and now it needs a sensor?
 
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 05:16 PM
  #5  
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,157
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by tylus
That is retarded

somthing that has worked great for 60+ years and now it needs a sensor?
Thats what I thought. The 5.4l has never had a overheating problem. Why mess with what works?
 
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2009 | 09:51 AM
  #6  
hookd's Avatar
hookd
Tuned
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 453
Likes: 1
From: Montana
they had to add some other little gadget that we have to take back to them and get fixed job security at its finest (I think the car manufacturers are taking lessons from the government)
 
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2009 | 04:53 PM
  #7  
bamp's Avatar
bamp
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: Arkansas
^^^ What he said!
 
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:47 AM
  #8  
1Aauto's Avatar
1Aauto
Former Vendor
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 8,098
Likes: 10
From: Westford, MA
It's a nightmare to even do a tune up these days.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:29 PM
  #9  
Beechkid's Avatar
Beechkid
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,105
Likes: 384
From: Southern California
Club FTE Gold Member
reply

Originally Posted by 1ATony
It's a nightmare to even do a tune up these days.
This is more of an "inconvenience"...in the 70's when Chev built the Cosworth Vega's & V8 Monza's (1980's iirr), you had to pull the engine to change the rear plugs in the Monza and the cosworth engines only lasted about 30,000 miles befor the rings had to be replaced because the block was aluminum and not sleeved- so the cylinder bores wore out!

Heck- I might as well bag on Toyota as well- 1987 Toyota Celica GT Automatic- had to pull the transmission to replace the backup light activation sensor!
 

Last edited by Beechkid; Jul 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM. Reason: nm
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:47 PM
  #10  
Tylus's Avatar
Tylus
MMNC (SS)(Ret)
Veteran: Navy
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 11,607
Likes: 151
From: SE Georgia
Club FTE Silver Member

did you ever get it fixed Berry?
 
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:15 PM
  #11  
gddyup's Avatar
gddyup
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Hope you get an answer on that Berry. My 07 will *sometimes* kick the fan into high on startup for about 20 seconds and then it goes back to normal. I only notice it once in awhile though, not all the time so I don't think it's a self-test deal. I'm curious to hear what you find on it if anything.
 
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:56 AM
  #12  
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,157
Likes: 3
Got a call from the dealer. Still 'working' on it. They are calling the Ford hotline, etc. We will see.
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:15 AM
  #13  
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,157
Likes: 3
Well drove with two techs and the service rep yesterday. Hooked the computer up to my ride and found the fan is spinning at the exact same speed as the engine. The fan is only supposed to go to 1,000rpms max. The computer is telling the fan to not be engaged, but it is. Now they have to upload this info to the Ford hotline and wait for a response. I guess Ford is so strict on their parts replacement the techs are all but handcuffed when it costs Ford money. Anyone can tell the fan clutch is bad! We will see what they say. Rant over.
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:24 PM
  #14  
gddyup's Avatar
gddyup
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by berry1234
Well drove with two techs and the service rep yesterday. Hooked the computer up to my ride and found the fan is spinning at the exact same speed as the engine. The fan is only supposed to go to 1,000rpms max. The computer is telling the fan to not be engaged, but it is. Now they have to upload this info to the Ford hotline and wait for a response. I guess Ford is so strict on their parts replacement the techs are all but handcuffed when it costs Ford money. Anyone can tell the fan clutch is bad! We will see what they say. Rant over.
So they have to call corporate to get the ok for a warranty replacement? They can't just order the fan clutch assy. and replace it?
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:30 PM
  #15  
berry1234's Avatar
berry1234
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 4,157
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by gddyup
So they have to call corporate to get the ok for a warranty replacement? They can't just order the fan clutch assy. and replace it?
Yeah, gotta get the bean counters to ok it. Funny thing is, when they were chasing a chirp while accelerating they replaced it and it turned out not to be the cause of the problem! Frustrating.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:21 AM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE