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i used POR 15 on the cab floor. it converted the rust and filled in any pitmarks. And the floor was totaly smooth, so you can sitck sound proofing
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they should sell POR15 in Canada, i know I've seen it locally here in Southern Ontario, just go to your local auto paint/body suppliers and see what they have,
also if you have rust issues and you want to try another method, you might want to look into getting some Concrete etcher, or concrete rust remover/cleaner (Home Depot and Rona, Lowes have it), and make sure it contains Phosphoric acid and no other acids, Phosphoric acid will actually convert rust to iron phosphate which is a neutral state, and thus no further rusting should occur, and make sure you let the concrete cleaner etc, etc, sit for a good while, and your going to brush this stuff on, and mind you, you will need safety glasses and gloves (i didn't use them, but safety first on here lol lol) it seems this stuff works best when you shake the container up, and just dab the chemical over the rusted area, in till you get a foam action starting, then just keep applying with the brush, also do this in a well ventilated area, its not the best stuff to breath in!
also make sure to wash the chemical off with water, do not let it dry on with out washing, then take a heat gun or torch and dry the area over to avoid rust reforming, than just apply some truck bed liner and your off to the races!
you can also apply chain lube to the floor of the truck (Liberally apply it!) and then just put all your padding and carpet in, also the truck bed liner should help sound proof the floor as the floor will not vibrate as much,
you can also look for stuff called Naval Jelly, as it does the same thing the concrete etcher/cleaner does but i can't find any locally, also that rust eater/converter stuff in the automotive section has Phosphoric acid in it, except you get a small amount and its super expensive! vs. hardware store concrete cleaner/etcher that is in a large container and is a fairly good price $15-$20
but that's my two cents!
-Brent
also if you have rust issues and you want to try another method, you might want to look into getting some Concrete etcher, or concrete rust remover/cleaner (Home Depot and Rona, Lowes have it), and make sure it contains Phosphoric acid and no other acids, Phosphoric acid will actually convert rust to iron phosphate which is a neutral state, and thus no further rusting should occur, and make sure you let the concrete cleaner etc, etc, sit for a good while, and your going to brush this stuff on, and mind you, you will need safety glasses and gloves (i didn't use them, but safety first on here lol lol) it seems this stuff works best when you shake the container up, and just dab the chemical over the rusted area, in till you get a foam action starting, then just keep applying with the brush, also do this in a well ventilated area, its not the best stuff to breath in!
also make sure to wash the chemical off with water, do not let it dry on with out washing, then take a heat gun or torch and dry the area over to avoid rust reforming, than just apply some truck bed liner and your off to the races!
you can also apply chain lube to the floor of the truck (Liberally apply it!) and then just put all your padding and carpet in, also the truck bed liner should help sound proof the floor as the floor will not vibrate as much,
you can also look for stuff called Naval Jelly, as it does the same thing the concrete etcher/cleaner does but i can't find any locally, also that rust eater/converter stuff in the automotive section has Phosphoric acid in it, except you get a small amount and its super expensive! vs. hardware store concrete cleaner/etcher that is in a large container and is a fairly good price $15-$20
but that's my two cents!
-Brent
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I had my own idea, and went the oddball route. I had the cab floor and back walls done with Line-X truck bedliner. I think it looks good, makes the floor waterproof, will serve as a sound deadener, and will provide a textured surface for the Dynamat to adhere to before I put down insulation and carpet.
Here's a couple pictures of the outcome.
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Here's a couple pictures of the outcome.
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neither John,
that is if you are sandblasting the rust off, as POR stands for Paint Over Rust, thus you actually need rust for it to bond, not sure about Rust Bullet, but i am sure its similar, also non rusted metal is not what either POR15 or Rust Bullet was intended for, as i know you got a new tailgate, and new doors and new fenders and a new hood, thus neither products are what your looking for,
if you say sandblast your frame, i would highly suggest getting Black Epoxy primer, the stuff works great, and is a much better price than POR-15 also you get much much more Epoxy than POR15 for the money, thus we applied about 6 coats on my trucks frame alone after we sandblasted it,
also the Epoxy is like a plastic, it coats and seals the frame really well and bonds well, and is very durable even when not fully dry!, heck we spilled power steering fluid on a part of the frame right after we had a few coats on already! (don't ask me how, but the old power steering pump was still attached to the steering box, and we had it hanging and it accidentally tipped to its side!!) but we just wiped it off, and than applied more coats to the frame, and luckily the Epoxy still bonded well and did not even bubble in the spilled area!
you can find the Black Epoxy primer at any good Auto paint/body supplier store,
also apply the coats the same day, we just let the epoxy tack up, then we did another coat and continued letting it tack up between coats, as if you let it sit for 1-2 weeks or more, you will need to lightly scuff the surface to apply more coats, as with a lot of other paints and primers,
-Brent
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So if you don't really have any pre-existing rust on your floor don't get POR15 or rust bullet?
I guess I will use a wire wheel on my drill then apply some coats of Duplicolor bedliner in a rattle can to do mine. A few places have slight surface rust nothing bad. I used Duplicolor bedliner in my bed and it worked and looks good.
I guess I will use a wire wheel on my drill then apply some coats of Duplicolor bedliner in a rattle can to do mine. A few places have slight surface rust nothing bad. I used Duplicolor bedliner in my bed and it worked and looks good.