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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Then why are people still arguing about it?

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Because they have no cold, hard facts to back it up...they rely solely on their memory. On the internet you don't have to prove anything, so to speak.

If two people arguing about something, and both have documentation, one can correct the other then both comes to an agreement after checking the facts and call it a day.

When you don't...flame wars.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermafenser
If two people arguing about something, and both have documentation, one can correct the other then both comes to an agreement after checking the facts and call it a day.

When you don't...flame wars.
So where is a scan of the Ford documents supporting Modified?

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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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So where is a scan of the Ford documents supporting Modified?
I'll be more than happy to give the refs when I return from Hawaii.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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I'll just follow his refs and post the scans since I haven't been able to find the time to browse the parts catalog lately.
 
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However keep in mind the first 351 was just that, a 351 until the second one came out, alas you now had a 351 Windsor and 351 Cleveland. It would stand to reckon when the 3rd 351 engine came out it stood for Michigan.

But i'll wait for the so called Ford Documents...

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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
However keep in mind the first 351 was just that, a 351 until the second one came out, alas you now had a 351 Windsor and 351 Cleveland. It would stand to reckon when the 3rd 351 engine came out it stood for Michigan.

But i'll wait for the so called Ford Documents...

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I've heard many things inre to what the M of 351 refers to, but Michigan ain't one of them.

The 351Windsor was refered to as such from 1969, the 351Cleveland was refered to as such from 1970.

Cleveland and Windsor were both engine assembly plants.

And the 351M was refered to as Modified by FoMoCo since model year 1975.

What engine assembly plant was Michigan?
 
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Michigan Casting Center- MCC, which took over casting from Dearborn Iron Foundry.

DIF casted all FE blocks until 1971 when MCC took over. Easy way to tell, DIF has 352 on the front of the block, MCC has the reverse 105.

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