Fuel Heater replacement
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Fuel Heater replacement
I've narrowed a problem down to the fuel heater, or at least a short in the heater. It seems like a simple task to replace, but I'm not sure where start. Its at the bottom of the fuel bowl I assume? Can anyone give me some simple procedures or point me to some for replacing the fuel heater? Do you have to remove the fuel bowl?
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Their's a good write up on here, I can't find the link... If your going to replace it upgrade to a SD heater, they are better built and require only minimal modification to work. You will need a crowsfoot wrench to get the stand pipe out. You don't have to remove the fuel bowl but it does make it easier and a good time to clean the valley of death.
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X2 what he said Plus.........That stand pipe is LEFT HAND THREADS.
I have modified a couple fuel bowl and installed the SD fuel heater. One very important part is to purchase the heater from International as they will charge about $25.00. If you purchase it from Ford they will charge you about $140.00 and smile while they do it.
Many on the forum just disconnect the heater and claim that they don't need/use it so they don't bother repairing or replacing it. You might want to consider that option as it is mucho cheaper.
If you do decide to do the mod give me a holler and I'll lay out the steps. It's not a difficult mod but I wouldn't even consider doing it with the bowl still installed.
Rog
I have modified a couple fuel bowl and installed the SD fuel heater. One very important part is to purchase the heater from International as they will charge about $25.00. If you purchase it from Ford they will charge you about $140.00 and smile while they do it.
Many on the forum just disconnect the heater and claim that they don't need/use it so they don't bother repairing or replacing it. You might want to consider that option as it is mucho cheaper.
If you do decide to do the mod give me a holler and I'll lay out the steps. It's not a difficult mod but I wouldn't even consider doing it with the bowl still installed.
Rog
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My heater went out about 6 years ago. I live in an extremely cold climate -40* on some days in the winter - still waiting to see 70* this year. Never had a problem without it. Needless to say we only have good quality winterized diesel locally and I have never had a problem with jelling. Since disconnecting the heater, the glow plugs seem to pull more juice and starting has improved. May just be a coincidence but that's been my experience.
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X2 what he said Plus.........That stand pipe is LEFT HAND THREADS.
I have modified a couple fuel bowl and installed the SD fuel heater. One very important part is to purchase the heater from International as they will charge about $25.00. If you purchase it from Ford they will charge you about $140.00 and smile while they do it.
Many on the forum just disconnect the heater and claim that they don't need/use it so they don't bother repairing or replacing it. You might want to consider that option as it is mucho cheaper.
If you do decide to do the mod give me a holler and I'll lay out the steps. It's not a difficult mod but I wouldn't even consider doing it with the bowl still installed.
Rog
I have modified a couple fuel bowl and installed the SD fuel heater. One very important part is to purchase the heater from International as they will charge about $25.00. If you purchase it from Ford they will charge you about $140.00 and smile while they do it.
Many on the forum just disconnect the heater and claim that they don't need/use it so they don't bother repairing or replacing it. You might want to consider that option as it is mucho cheaper.
If you do decide to do the mod give me a holler and I'll lay out the steps. It's not a difficult mod but I wouldn't even consider doing it with the bowl still installed.
Rog
I thought about just disconnecting it, but I've read that even though it doesn't appear you have a problem, without the heater waxes and what-not will build on up the filter and also might mess up your injectors, so I'm gonna go with replacing it.
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Also, does anyone know what size crows foot wrench it is? I suppose I should just buy a set. Standard or Metric?
Is there a simple way to drain the fuel bowl on these things... and is it possible to do it without draining it all over the valley?
Is there a simple way to drain the fuel bowl on these things... and is it possible to do it without draining it all over the valley?
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I believe a basin wrench will work. It is at the hardware store and is used for getting loose water lines under the basin.
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There are a valve with a yellow handle in the pass side of the canister to drain the bowl, but be careful because you will make a mess in your driveway, I put an extra hose (longer) and collect the fuel in a jar and see if you have water there.
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The only thing that the parts guy at the dealer could find was labeled "PACKAGE, FUEL HEATER", the part number is kind of hard to make out, but I think it is
18158 2C91
it may also be
18156 2C91
They want $88 for it.
There is another item in the parts listing labeled:
1811 53C1 RING, O, FUEL HEATER
...............HEATER, FUEL W/ O-RING
It looks like that bold item is what I need, but it isn't next to a part number.
18158 2C91
it may also be
18156 2C91
They want $88 for it.
There is another item in the parts listing labeled:
1811 53C1 RING, O, FUEL HEATER
...............HEATER, FUEL W/ O-RING
It looks like that bold item is what I need, but it isn't next to a part number.
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OK Lambo333, here are the Upgraded SD part numbers:
Ford F81Z-9J294-44
International 1831196C92
If you will PM me with your E-mail address I'll send you the whole procedure, it's quite simple and and requires a few simple tools.
Remember....International is $100.00 Plus cheaper than Ford.
Rog
Ford F81Z-9J294-44
International 1831196C92
If you will PM me with your E-mail address I'll send you the whole procedure, it's quite simple and and requires a few simple tools.
Remember....International is $100.00 Plus cheaper than Ford.
Rog
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Thanks for all the info gents... I probably should have done the SD heater upgrade, but they had a stock replacement at the dealer here for $75. With the international dealer 90 miles away this was much more convenient and quick. Its a 10 minute job once I new where to start.
I'd like to know what they had in their heads when they made a plastic part with reversed threads. I wonder how many stand tubes have been ruined do those this marvel of engineering. I know if it wasn't for you guys I'd probably be waiting for a new one right now.
I'd like to know what they had in their heads when they made a plastic part with reversed threads. I wonder how many stand tubes have been ruined do those this marvel of engineering. I know if it wasn't for you guys I'd probably be waiting for a new one right now.
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Thanks for all the info gents... I probably should have done the SD heater upgrade, but they had a stock replacement at the dealer here for $75. With the international dealer 90 miles away this was much more convenient and quick. Its a 10 minute job once I new where to start.
I'd like to know what they had in their heads when they made a plastic part with reversed threads. I wonder how many stand tubes have been ruined do those this marvel of engineering. I know if it wasn't for you guys I'd probably be waiting for a new one right now.
I'd like to know what they had in their heads when they made a plastic part with reversed threads. I wonder how many stand tubes have been ruined do those this marvel of engineering. I know if it wasn't for you guys I'd probably be waiting for a new one right now.
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