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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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I'm about to change the fluid, filter and pan gasket on my C6, and I want to make sure that I put the correct fluid in.

The dipstick says Type F is the correct type to use, but I've also heard that Dexron III can be used. I think the transmission was rebuilt in '89, and the fluid that is in it is orange/red-ish.

I don't want to burn it up, but HOW DO I KNOW????
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure you want to put type F in it. Don't put dexron in it. As far as I know that is for gm and "others" put in there cars. but I could be wrong. I've only ever put type f in my fords.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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I would call a transmission shop and ask them. I heard that Dextron is what you are to use if it has been rebuilt in the last few years.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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The owners manual for my 79 F100 C6 says use fluid that meets Ford specification ESP-M2C138-CJ or Dextron II series D fluid, or equivalent. Type "F" is used in the power steering pump.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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If you want your trans to last run type F.

ok.......lemme have it........
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Type F is not interchangeable with any of the other fluids. However, since your transmission has been rebuilt, you're going to get very different answers on this forum as to whether or not you should use what is listed for a 1973 (which would have been Type F), or something more recent. As such, I highly advise you post this in the transmission forum and direct the question at the very talented individuals in that forum that rebuild transmissions for a living.

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Originally Posted by smokeyb97
The owners manual for my 79 F100 C6 says use fluid that meets Ford specification ESP-M2C138-CJ or Dextron II series D fluid, or equivalent. Type "F" is used in the power steering pump.
Don't give advice like that. His truck is a 1973; what your 1979 manual says is irrelevant. Ford switched from Type F to Dexron II sometime before 1979.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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1976 and earlier: Type F.

1977 and later: Mercon.

Ford never used Dextron.

I would use Type F in your case.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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I've seen them both ways. The difference is the clutch material. In the older transmissions that require Type F used asbestos clutches, while the newer ones use a paper base clutch. I would imagine that the rebuilders would have upgraded to the newer style clutches. If the shop that did the trans is still around, you could ask what they would have done.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermafenser

Ford never used Dextron.

This above is incorrect. Although the Mercon and Dexron-II is basicly the same fluid. Ford paid GM a license fee to use the Dexron-II name untill the name Mercon was intoduced. There is a credit to GM in the part book. (sic)

Here is the original Specification and part numbers for Ford Dexron-II fluid.

Motorcraft Dexron II Automatic Transmission Fluid:
Part Number: XT-2-QDX
Specification: Dexron II series "D"
Specification #: ESP-M2C138-CJ

and for completeness....

Motorcraft Type-F:
Part Number: XT-1-QF
Specification: ESW-M2C33-F

Motorcraft Standard Transmission Lube:
Part Number: D8DZ-19C547-A
Specification: ESP-M2C83-C


Please be aware that these part numbers can be out of date....
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fmc400
Type F is not interchangeable with any of the other fluids. However, since your transmission has been rebuilt, you're going to get very different answers on this forum as to whether or not you should use what is listed for a 1973 (which would have been Type F), or something more recent. As such, I highly advise you post this in the transmission forum and direct the question at the very talented individuals in that forum that rebuild transmissions for a living.

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Don't give advice like that. His truck is a 1973; what your 1979 manual says is irrelevant. Ford switched from Type F to Dexron II sometime before 1979.
That's why I gave 79 to him
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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OK, from what I'm hearing, Type F seems to be the way to go.

Are any of you partial to a particular brand?

Is there any benefit to using a synthetic (Royal Purple, Amsoil, etc.) over a petroleum based fluid?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermafenser
1976 and earlier: Type F.

1977 and later: Mercon.

Ford never used Dextron.

I would use Type F in your case.

This is correct!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tees77f150
This is correct!
All except Ford using Dexron-II because they did.

See the explanation in post 9.

The Name Mercon was introduced in the 80s.

Mercon and Dexron-II is basicly the same fluid.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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When I saw this post...I thought it was the same one I had discussions in a while back...for what it's worth, here are a bunch more opinions from basically the same question a month or so ago. My vote was Type F "think with your dipstick".

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ion-fluid.html
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fellro86
I've seen them both ways. The difference is the clutch material. In the older transmissions that require Type F used asbestos clutches, while the newer ones use a paper base clutch. I would imagine that the rebuilders would have upgraded to the newer style clutches. If the shop that did the trans is still around, you could ask what they would have done.
my 79 c4 says type f on the dipstick but i know those are the "iffy" years so i had mine built as a f type as cluches grip better in f.
 
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