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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Fuel system upgrade? 351W

Would it be feasible, and would it make much of a difference, to take my old carbed 351 in my '85 F-250 and give it some variety of fuel injection?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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best/economical efi would be get a mustang mass air harness, injector harness and maf harness and then get the 5.8 efi upper/lower intake and go that route. run a mustan A9l ecu for instance.

Ford Fuel Injection has a bunch of info and has links to wiring harness's and such.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Would it matter where I got the high pressure pump? Could I steal one off of an EFI donor truck, or are they engine/configuration specific in terms of output pressure?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Yes the pump from a donor truck would work as long as you also get the fuel tank, doesn't matter what truck either the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail set the pressure. I don't think an EFI swap will make a hugh difference in milage though, the vehicle gearing and tranny affect it more, you'll get bigger milage increases with an OD trany swap if you don't already have one.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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So the low pressure pump in an EFI truck is different than the in-tank pump in the older carbed truck?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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All trucks from '90 on had high pressure in tank pumps only, but before that they had low pressure units in there and a high pressure unit on the frame. The other difference was that the EFI systems had return lines so the fuel pickup assembly is different. I can't say if an EFI assembly would fit in an older tank.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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That's interesting.

Kind of a tangent here, but this is new territory to me, as I've always had '80's trucks...

My '95 F-150 XL doesn't have the HP pump on the frame then? The reason I ask... I have to go through a strange ritual of cycling the key a few times, praying, and cranking the engine to make it start, and I was told by a buddy who had had a Bronco of the same year that it was a weak fuel pump.

But it does the same thing on both tanks, so I presumed it was a bad high pressure pump, and the in tank low pressure pumps were fine. What are the odds that both pumps are weak, then?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Your truck has high pressure pumnps only and the odds that both are weak is slim.. though not impossible. It's a better chance you have a bad FPR, a leaking injector, or a bad check valve in one of the fuel sending units(do you have the fuel transfer problem between tanks?) You should start the search by attaching a gauge to the fuel rail to see what it builds with a key cycle and if it holds pressure or not.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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I've fixed the relay problem three times on the previous generation trucks, didn't know if it was still an issue. If it were a leaking injector, wouldn't it be every time? Sometimes it fires as soon as I turn it over. When I first got this truck, switching to the front tank stalled it out, but after a few tries, both tanks work. I just can't use the front one until I replace the filler hose, it's got a few pinholes in it, and I don't like watering the concrete with fuel, so I've got it taped up for now, until I have time to build myself some filler brackets for my flatbed, the previous owner just ran the caps up through the rust holes in the diamond plate, so I have to reach over my wooden sides to even get to the darn things.

If it's a bad check valve, shouldn't it still only be a problem on one tank, if I don't have the fuel transfer bug?
 
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