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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Getting the bugs worked out!

I picked up a '2wd 76 F100 with a 360 late last fall and have been working getting things going to make it drivable. When I bought the the truck it had been sitting for a couple of years being started just now and again. Only thing that I could find wrong was a slight hesitation when you got on the gas a little too quickly.

Since I bought the truck i've given it a tune up and a few extras:

Carb rebuild
Fuel Pump
Fuel Filter
Air Filter
Battery
New vacuum hoses
Thermostat
Cap and Button
Plugs and Wires
Oil Change
Manual Choke

The truck starts fine warms up and idles great. Still has a bad hesitation when you step on the gas but now it also seems to do it while driving. Going down the road it idles fine,but if you give it gas it trys to die. Can't find any vacuum leaks anywhere. I'm not sure if this would be that the carb mixture is off, bad power valve, or the fuel filter being clogged.

I'm not sure where to go from here,but any help would be appreciated!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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When you did the carb rebuild did you replace the accelerator pump too?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
When you did the carb rebuild did you replace the accelerator pump too?
Yeah,the gasket was shot and leaking,so it was one of the first things to be fixed.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Have you verified the vacuum advance is working? that would cause an off idle hesitation were it not working or not connected to a ported vacuum source.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
Have you verified the vacuum advance is working? that would cause an off idle hesitation were it not working or not connected to a ported vacuum source.
What's the best way to check the advance,and where should I be getting a ported vacuum source from?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Something that I forgot to include is that the transmission seems to be shifting fairly rough. Doesn't seem to be mechanically related, but more on the line of the vacuum not being hooked up correctly...If anyone has a diagram for the vacuum,or could point me in the right direction for what-goes-where, I think that would solve a lot of things.

Montana,checked the advance today, and was getting a constant vacuum...Got it hooked up with the spark delay valve to a ported source (I think!) and tried it out.
The hesitation when pulling out from a stop or stepping on it too quickly is gone!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hacking_in2002
Something that I forgot to include is that the transmission seems to be shifting fairly rough. Doesn't seem to be mechanically related, but more on the line of the vacuum not being hooked up correctly...If anyone has a diagram for the vacuum,or could point me in the right direction for what-goes-where, I think that would solve a lot of things.

Montana,checked the advance today, and was getting a constant vacuum...Got it hooked up with the spark delay valve to a ported source (I think!) and tried it out.
The hesitation when pulling out from a stop or stepping on it too quickly is gone!
As for your transmission shifting roughly it may be your modulator, pull the vacuum hose from the transmission modulator and see if any tranny fluid is present, if so the diaphragm is bad and the modulator needs replaced.

If you were getting constant vacuum at idle from your vacuum advance hose then someone had it connected to manifold vacuum which doesn't necessarily mean connected directly to the intake manifold (connected to the carb below the throttle plates is still manifold vacuum) and it pulls in all your vacuum advance at idle leaving a flat spot or hesitation just off idle, a ported vacuum source will pull no vacuum at idle, some guys with a lopey cam may choose to pull manifold vacuum for their advance to smooth out a rough idle and/or run cooler, but for a basically stock engine ported (above the throttle blades) is the preferred source for vacuum advance.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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The hesitation sounds like an accelerator pump issue. With the engine off, look down the throat of the carburetor and pull the throttle back. You should see two nice streams of gas shoot against the venturis.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by montana_highboy
As for your transmission shifting roughly it may be your modulator, pull the vacuum hose from the transmission modulator and see if any tranny fluid is present, if so the diaphragm is bad and the modulator needs replaced.
The modulator is located on the side of the transmission, right? Where should it be pulling vacuum from?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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The modulator is located on the side of the transmission, right? Where should it be pulling vacuum from?
If i remember correctly the modulator is on the rear right side of the transmission just above the pan and it should pull manifold vacuum.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Got to check some stuff out between the bursts of rain today....So far the accelerator pump and modulator checked out, everything is hooked up and working. Anyone know if the EGR valve should be ported or constant? The EGR, choke pulloff, and vacuum canister are all I have left to check out (as far as vacuum connections.)
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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EGR = ported vacuum (through a temperature-controlled vacuum switch called a PVS)
Choke pulloff = manifold vacuum (present at idle).

When you say vacuum canister, do you mean the thing that looks like a coffee can?

There's no such thing as constant vacuum because manifold vacuum drops off as the throttle plates open and manifold negative pressure equalizes to atmospheric pressure.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fmc400
EGR = ported vacuum (through a temperature-controlled vacuum switch called a PVS)
Choke pulloff = manifold vacuum (present at idle).

When you say vacuum canister, do you mean the thing that looks like a coffee can?

There's no such thing as constant vacuum because manifold vacuum drops off as the throttle plates open and manifold negative pressure equalizes to atmospheric pressure.
Hooked the EGR up to the PVS,and the pulloff to manifold vacuum (thanks for clearing that up FMC!)........Took the truck out and it drove great,no hesitation,and didn't try to die or stall.....that is until I was just about home,and it decided stall on me Just happened to check the accelerator pump again, and wasn't getting any gas. Happened to have an extra in my carb kit,so guess I'll try that tomorrow after work!

The thing I was referring to as the vacuum canister is the black piece mounted by my valve cover:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...1Image0004.jpg
 
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