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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Lightbulb tranny pto...

where would i look to find a tranny pto driven generators? being as i live in hurricane country, and i have plenty of other uses for one, i would like to try to set my truck up with one. would make the huricanes go by much better
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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Check with northern hydraulics they used to handle all kind of cool stuff like that.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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i see nuffin on their web site. if i could find either the pto set up or a big enuff 120/240 alternator, i could find a way to hook it up. i got lots of metal and plenty of rods and wire to burn
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Question is, how much stuff are you looking to run?

What kind of amps and volts are you looking for?

If you are looking to run a refrigerator and some lights, you can probably get by with something in the 8 to 10 KW size.

Throw in a microwave, coffee pot, deep freeze, hot water tank and washing machine the size increases rather fast unless you hook and unhook stuff as you need it.

Here is a decent sized unit that should run a couple bigger amp things and some lights at the same time.

Winco 25FPTOC-3 - 25 kW Tractor-Driven PTO Generator (1,000 RPM)

It would be able to run almost as much as a 100 amps service entrance if you don't have to many motor loads.

A 50 HP motor should be able to run it as a stand alone unit since it is rather large at 330 pounds.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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i cant do a tractor driven generator, dad wont let me have it durring bad weather, says it needs to be protected under his shed.... 15K tractor sits in the shed in a hurricane, his 25K truck sat out in the middle of the yard durring Ike... go figure
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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A PTO driven generator don't care what is turning the PTO shaft.

All that one wants is a 1000 RPM input.

What are you wanting to power up?

You want to run the refridgerator and one light, a 5000/6000 watt portable would handle that.

You want to run the house like everything was normal, then you are looking for close to 25,000 watts and a 240 volt generator as a minimum with a switch to prevent backfeeding the electric company lines.

A generator like that mounted on a frame with a salvage yard diesel engine and a 250 gallon fuel tank, you would be living rather normal for a week or two, maybe more.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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you can run a whole house on 15K. the panel has a main so that will prevent backfeed. around here you cant find anything diesel or diesel related in the junk/salvage yards. since when one part on there motors go bad the motor is junk and not worth fixing. thats the reason onone will put them in the yards, there not worth haveing. thats what the yards will tell ya. but for what it would cost to get a pto gen and an engine and to fab up a mount, i could buy the 7250 rms 10K surge for 799$ and have the money for a week worth of fuel. mainly wanting to be able to do the house, as well as run what i need to away from the house without an inverter.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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durring IKE we ran a 15K on a 3000 sq foot house, all the lights a/c washer dryer and 18 people staying there for the first week. after that it dropped to 7 of us and the fuel bill dropped by 4X
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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15kw of power for only one house? did I understand that right?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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i want to say that for an all electric house 25K is what is recommended you can get by with 7-10 IF you have an alternative way to cook food, and know how to feneagle what comes on when, to put your compressor loads first, then bring lights on after compressors are running
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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I shoud do more research on the house side of alternative energy, most of what I know is for vehicles. Didn't realize it was that high. First place would be to check the power bill to see how much we are actually using daily(I'm not the one that pays the bills normally). Although we don't use electric heat and the stove is NG.

But 25Kwh is almost enough to fully charge my car.....(battery size should be 28.8kw)
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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non elec heat and stove make a BIG differnece on an electric bill. well david, if ya think about a water heater, ours has 2 3500 watt elements in it. so that by it's self is a full 7K generator load just in its self. a stove under full load draws just a little more than that. just those 2 together you need atleast a 15K just there. not to mention lights fans a/c and what ever else may run. i've had about 10 years of residential electrician work, so for me, a 7K will work, just in knowing what can run when, like dave said, you have to turn on and off things for the smaller sizes like that to work.
 
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14 years as a master electrician myself with plenty of industrial and commercial work.

Seeing a cook stove 12 kw is not uncommon.
Electric dryers in the 7 kw range are rather common as well.
Most refrigerators are around 2.4 kw
Whole house air conditioning 5 to 10 kw per unit.

Electric heat homes are usually in the 48 kw class to allow for the other equipment in a home.

It adds up faster than most people think.
Which is why overloaded electric circuits are responsible for 85% of all house fires.

Back in 1999 a gentleman called for me to wire up an emergency generator because of the Y2K electric scare.
His wife had an oxygen unit that required electricity and many though the power would go off.
He thought he could run his whole house with a 2400 watt generator which would have been over capacity trying to start the refrigerator motor.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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I guess thats not out of line since a small toaster will typically pull at least 1kw of power.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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off the wall, can you put more than 1 alternator on a 12v system, as in 2 or maybe 3 depending on what type of recneck enginering schemes i am doodlin with right now??????
 
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