Power Door Lock Problem
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Power Door Lock Problem
I just completed the foil power door lock fix but ran into a problem. When I press the driver side to lock the doors the passenger side locks and the drivers side stays up. When I press unlock the passanger side unlocks and the driver side locks. I did each one by itself so I know I didn't get each side mixed up. What could it be?
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From: La La Land
When you took that little motor apart, you didn't mark it with a Magic Marker like the instructions said to do. So, you got the motor "end piece", the one that has the brushes, on 180 degrees out of phase.
You gotta again "un-crimp" that piece, rotate it around 180 degrees, and re-crimp it.
Then put it all back together again.
Pop
You gotta again "un-crimp" that piece, rotate it around 180 degrees, and re-crimp it.
Then put it all back together again.
Pop
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mine does this some times too..but its because the door panel moves and pinches the lock button..any way's here is the lock fix mod..
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...cks-fixed.html
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SpringerPop, that's exactly what I did. Thanks, now they work like a charm. Now to get a couple of remote fob's and program them for this truck.
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I did this on my mom's doors for her 2000 F-150 and it fried the motors inside those locks after a short time. We ended up replacing them with new power units. The were redesigned, looked completely different. I think that "chip" inside the motor maybe be a current limiting resistor of some sort and without it, you risk the motor drawing too much current. I probably won't ever perform that "fix" again. The new power units we got for hers were like between $20-30 each and were from a parts house owned by the same family as the local ford house, so I think they are OEM. They were cheaper than other aftermarket sources around town.
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The stock actuators are prone to failing over time.We sell replacements too,if any of you guys get stuck.
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Tony,
Here at FTE we are well-aware of the tendency of the OEM units to degrade over time, and why.
So, tell us a bit more about the actuators you sell.
Do they have protective thermisters internally? If they do, are they subject to the same degradation that the OEM units are? If they aren't, why not?
If they have no thermisters, what protection is afforded to the actuator motors in the case of a stuck actuator switch?
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Here at FTE we are well-aware of the tendency of the OEM units to degrade over time, and why.
So, tell us a bit more about the actuators you sell.
Do they have protective thermisters internally? If they do, are they subject to the same degradation that the OEM units are? If they aren't, why not?
If they have no thermisters, what protection is afforded to the actuator motors in the case of a stuck actuator switch?
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ZX250, it's a dc electrical system, there is no sync, it's a polarity issue (the motor reverses direction when polarity is reversed). He's got some contacts crossed.
SpringerPop, I don't know about those guys but the unit's I put in my mother's F-150 looked more like actual solenoids instead of motors and gears. (longer and skinnier). I think they went through a whole redesign. i think they were Dorman made. I don't know if that is Ford's ODM or not (original Design manufacturer). Like I say, this parts distributor is said to be the parts warehouse for the local ford dealer, since both are owned by the same family. I haven't torn one open to see what's inside them. when I "fixed" the factory ones, the torched themselves, almost literally. I opened up the drivers side after it broke again and the inside of the motor was black and the commutator (if i remember my vocabulary right) was in pieces. It physically locked up the motor where she couldn't lock the door by hand. We'll see how the redesigned ones work.
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SpringerPop, I don't know about those guys but the unit's I put in my mother's F-150 looked more like actual solenoids instead of motors and gears. (longer and skinnier). I think they went through a whole redesign. i think they were Dorman made. I don't know if that is Ford's ODM or not (original Design manufacturer). Like I say, this parts distributor is said to be the parts warehouse for the local ford dealer, since both are owned by the same family. I haven't torn one open to see what's inside them. when I "fixed" the factory ones, the torched themselves, almost literally. I opened up the drivers side after it broke again and the inside of the motor was black and the commutator (if i remember my vocabulary right) was in pieces. It physically locked up the motor where she couldn't lock the door by hand. We'll see how the redesigned ones work.
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The F-150's actuators look very different from the ones in the SuperDutys, and are understandably not interchangable. The F-150-type still have a motor and gears inside, though.
If you click on the link in 1ATony's post above,
Shop for Ford F-Series Pickup Power Door Lock Actuator at 1A Auto®
it will show you illustrations of both kinds.
The re-designed SuperDuty actuators still have a geartrain and motor, but they ARE very different inside, and it looks like Ford's design department had a completely different team do the second design.
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If you click on the link in 1ATony's post above,
Shop for Ford F-Series Pickup Power Door Lock Actuator at 1A Auto®
it will show you illustrations of both kinds.
The re-designed SuperDuty actuators still have a geartrain and motor, but they ARE very different inside, and it looks like Ford's design department had a completely different team do the second design.
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The one's on my mom's F-150 had gears and a motor. Looked exactly like the pictures posted on here. They may be different, but I assumed ford didn't re-invent the wheel for different trucks. just a thought.
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