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Old May 30, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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No fuel from tank

I am unable to get fuel delivery from tanks to engine in normal operation. I can however get pumps working with jumper wire to them. It will start with ether but not stay running on it's own. Could this be a relay or something in tfi thing ?
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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what year truck is it? model? engine?
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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no fuel

it's a 1988 e350 club wagon with 460
sorry bout the failure to identify but it's pi33in me off
 
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Old May 30, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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it's a 1988 e350 club wagon with 460
sorry bout the failure to identify but it's pi33in me off
Is it Fuel Injected or a carb job?
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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the thing has the fuel injection the eec iv efi i replaced the fuel relay and am replacing
tfi module now
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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If it starts on ether but not stay running on it's own then you have spark and it is not the TFI module or the Ignition system.

First check to see if Inertia Fuel Shutoff needs to be reset by pushing down on the button on top.
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If no help you need to ground pin #6 of the EEC Test connector with key on and see if the pumps run.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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That got the pumps running. now should it have pressure at the check port ? only has a little fuel or do i need to give it some time to build . I left it on for a minute or so and had some fuel but not a steady pressure stream.
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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the inertia switch was good b4 i used pin 6
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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That got the pumps running. now should it have pressure at the check port ?
Yes with in 15 seconds, about 42 PSI.

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only has a little fuel or do i need to give it some time to build . I left it on for a minute or so and had some fuel but not a steady pressure stream.
Do not run the pump on the frame very long without fuel going through it as it uses fuel for cooling.

Do you have two tanks?

If so do you get the same thing on the other tank.

Can you hear the selected pump in the tank run while pin #6 is grounded and the key on?
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Yes the pumps will work individually as selected but not much pressure . It does have 2 tanks
 
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Have you changed the fuel filter?
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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not yet but can do
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Now that I have a running vehicle Thanks To You . What do i need to replace to make it operate without the jumper wire to pin 6 ?
Thank You VERY Much
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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This is the second time today I have been ask this question.
I will tell you what I told him:

If the pump will not run for one second when you turn on the key and will run with pin #6 of the EEC self test connector grounded with the key on then yes there is a good chance that the PCM is bad.

Other possibility's are:
The wire from the self-test connector pin #6 to the computer pin is open, not likely.
The PCM is not grounded, has happened a few times. (small wire at the NEG [-] post of the battery not making a good ground at the body ground junction or post)
The PCM is not getting 12 Volt Power, has happened a few times.
There are pins pushed out in the PCM plug or are very corroded this has also happened.

But most of the time it is the PCM that is bad.
 
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Again Thank You at least i can get r done with that info and your knowledge has helped .
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