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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Clutch shutter

1988 F250 351

I replaced the clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing and had the flywheel resurfaced 7,000 miles ago when I put in a new engine. The truck now shutters like crazy in 1st or reverse with a load. Seems to be worse with warm weather and/or a hot engine. The clutch replacement parts were aftermarket not Ford. There doesn't appear to be excessive oil inside the bell when I look through the inspection hole. The drive shaft u-joints are all new and the trans mount bolts and tight. This shuttering is a pain and it appears to be getting worse. Am I looking at a trans pull and a new clutch assembly?

What didn't work here - what's going on?

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Old May 25, 2009 | 04:51 AM
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I would have thought oil on the clutch plate was the most likely cause. You have already covered likely external problems.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 04:53 AM
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What brand of clutch and pressure plate did you go with? And what do you mean by "excessive oil"? Any oil is too much.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 06:08 AM
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Excessive = no oil visiable when looking in the inspection hole. Can't remember the brand on the clutch. It was in 2007.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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A few other causes, glazed lining, warped clutch disc, warped pressure plate, uneaven pressure plate tension, loose splines on clutch hub.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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I spoke to a top flight racing mechanic night about doing the job - I don't have the trans jack or I might try it myself. He said there is standard duty and a heavy duty clutch kit available for most applications. He recommended the heavy duty as I pull trailers with skid steers quite a bit. I can't seem to locate the heavy duty type. I tried Advance Auto and went online as well.

Any ideas or suggestions on clutch kits?
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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If you're buying clutches at advance auto, I think that's your problem right there.

Go online and get a luk clutch. They are OEM for most manufacturers including Ford.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Check your hydraulics, mine did the same thing when I upgraded the clutch on my T18, turned out the standard duty clutch was fine but the master and slave were shot. It's a lot easier and cheaper to fix external hydraulics than to have somebody pull the tranny and tell you there is nothin wrong with the clutch.

Just my thoughts.
 
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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I didn't get the clutch in question from Advance - I was just checking with Advance for a heavy duty application.

If the problem is in the hydraulics I'd still have to have the tranny pulled to get to the slave. And if the master is leaking wouldn't I see fluid on the firewall inside the cab?
 
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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It depends on what transmission you have. My assumption is that an 88 3/4 ton wouldn't have a Mazda 5spd(internal slave) if you have a 4spd then the slave is external, if it's a 5spd then it's probably a ZF I'm not sure what the hydraulics are like on those.

As for the Master, mine didn't leak any fluid that I saw.
 
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Mine's a 5 speed with an internal slave. What made you think your master was bad if there wasn't any leak?
 
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It was the last thing I hadn't replaced and it made a hissing sound sometimes when I pushed the clutch in and chattered when it was hot.
 
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Thanks I check that.
 
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