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Old May 22, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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I gotta go to Fl this weekend and have yet to installan alarm system. So, I am hoping someone might tell me of a quick fix. I am looking for a easily accessable fuse or relay I can remove at night to keep small-time thieves from possibly making off with my # four (after the wife and both girls) possession.
I guess that if someone were to break into my truck over the weekend and they tried to steel my baby (06 F350 SD, CC, 4x4, PSD, Auto), the most they would figure out is how to trash the interior and maybe steal the radio.
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Old May 23, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Off the top of my head, cant remember. But there is a fuse for the fuel pump or engine ecm. Both of these will allow the engine to crank but not to fire. Pull either one of these and try it yourself to start and it shouldnt. However if you pull the fuel pump it may start for a couple of seconds while it burns the unburnt fuel. I just noticed it s diesel. Also should be a fuse for injectors, all of these should do the job. Just remove one and check it before you go to Florida. Good luck
 
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Old May 23, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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buy dog, big dog....leave dog in car...not for too long or without water or anything of course

but the most common way to break into a superduty is knocking out the key slot on one of ours that got broke into we just covered the key slot with epoxy then painted it black, great fix if you have keyless entry and i know people do it and have had the batterty get too low to start but the door locks still open
 
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Old May 23, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I believe all Ford vehicles after 2000 came with the E-PATS system (Ford Passive Anti Theft System) from the factory. From what I understand, it is a rather sofisticated system that is not easily compromised. I don't think you will need anything in addition, but that's just my comfort level which may differ from others.
 
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Old May 23, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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PATS is not on the SD line, maybe in 2010?

Under dash panel, pull several, if looking in manual, I would go for fuel pump and computers or such. Also, pick one say 20 amp, where there is only a few, and take them all so they can't switch around.

Thats what I did with my Stang back in the day along with the Clifford Alarm, glass breakage detector, second and third alarm batteries, for long times alone, disable fuel pump through crash detector by hitting with ascrew driver. Just have to know how to reset it.
 
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Old May 23, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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If the basic electrical system for the 6.0's is similar to the 7.3's, there will be a relay that supplies power to the Injector Driver Module (IDM). Removing that relay will allow everything to appear normal to a thief, but the engine will not start. The starter motor will turn it over like always, but no fire at all.

Rather than troubleshoot the problem, they'll hopefully just move on to the next one.

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Old May 23, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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It's the FICM relay on the 6.0's....

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Old May 23, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Whatever happened with that gizmo called "the club". It locks onto the steering wheel and extends far enough that it interferes with your legs when the steering wheel is turned. Since it is very obvious from outside the window, I'd think people might look elsewhere first. Didn't these things work out?
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jackles
I believe all Ford vehicles after 2000 came with the E-PATS system (Ford Passive Anti Theft System) from the factory.
Originally Posted by mhoefer
PATS is not on the SD line, maybe in 2010?
While most of Ford's line-up got PATS in 2000, I believe 2004 was the "magic" year for PATS keys in the Super Duty line-up.

That is the first year that Ford added the following paragraph (or something similar) to the Super Duty Owner Guides:
Your keys are programmed to your vehicle; using a non-programmed key will not permit your vehicle to start. If you lose your dealer supplied keys, replacement keys are available through your authorized dealer.
There are no indications that this was only applicable to certain trim levels or option packages.

Originally Posted by BareBones
Whatever happened with that gizmo called "the club".
The Club may be a deterrent, but any criminal that steals vehicles knows that you can circumvent a Club in about 10 seconds.

A better option would be a pedal lock. One of those that prevents the brake pedal from being depressed. They are tougher to remove.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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How about something that prevents the gas pedal from being depressed? If I was a thief, no brakes wouldn't stop me, especially with the e-brake right there and being able to use the trans. to slow down.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Deluxe05
While most of Ford's line-up got PATS in 2000, I believe 2004 was the "magic" year for PATS keys in the Super Duty line-up.

That is the first year that Ford added the following paragraph (or something similar) to the Super Duty Owner Guides:
Your keys are programmed to your vehicle; using a non-programmed key will not permit your vehicle to start. If you lose your dealer supplied keys, replacement keys are available through your authorized dealer.
There are no indications that this was only applicable to certain trim levels or option packages.
I can tell you my 2007 XLT does not have keys with the chip... Just the same keys my '96 F-150 EB had...
 

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Old May 24, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by enduro4231
How about something that prevents the gas pedal from being depressed? If I was a thief, no brakes wouldn't stop me, especially with the e-brake right there and being able to use the trans. to slow down.

no brake means no shift out of park (unless its a manual)
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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I just cut the starter wire at the ignition switch, run a couple 12ga wires separately to a remote location under the dash to a 30 amp relay. Another relay grounding the horn wire blows the horn when they try to start the truck. An innocent looking pushbutton switch under the dash trips the relay and allows the truck to start (without the horn blowing of course). A smart thief will figure it out, but even the smart one would have some difficulty getting it started without some wiring tools (unless they figured out the hidden push button). The dumb ones (most) would move onto the next one pretty quick...
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by enduro4231
How about something that prevents the gas pedal from being depressed? If I was a thief, no brakes wouldn't stop me, especially with the e-brake right there and being able to use the trans. to slow down.
Originally Posted by wire4money
no brake means no shift out of park (unless its a manual)
Yep, that is precisely what it is meant to do.


Also...all of the newer F-Series are drive-by-wire. It would not take too much (especially for a career car thief) to come up with a gizmo that lets him/her simply move the wiring from the vehicle's accelerator pedal to a new pedal assembly, hand-operated potentiometer, etc.

Conversely, the brake pedal ties into the brake master cylinder, and it would be immeasurably more difficult to attempt to circumvent that system.
 
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Old May 25, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wire4money
no brake means no shift out of park (unless its a manual)
Completely forgot about that one! Hah.
 
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