oil change question
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oil change question
I just bought a 2007 F150 4x4 with a little over 19k miles last week. I don't know when the oil was changed last so I am changing it tomorrow. I was wondering if I should start adding Lucus oil stablizer now or wait until I get more milage? Any advice?
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Never heard of this stuff, what is it suppose to do? Most on this board stick to the Motorcraft Syn-Blend recommended by Ford. Others (including myself) go with a full synthetic oil (Pennzoil Platinum, Mobile 1, etc...). I find it tends to help relieve the "Ticky" chatter of these engines.
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I don't want to go into a bunch of details because that could result in a long thread of arguments/opinions of PAO basestocks and the use of the word "Synthetic" by certain brands...anyway. The main advantage to a synthetic oil is that it doesn't breakdown as quickly as conventional oil, is cleaner, usually has detergents added and can be used over longer intervals (more than 3K miles).
But, for me, the biggest advantage is that synthetic oil doesn't get consumed between changes in my two 5.4L trucks. These engines are known for consuming a couple/few liters in between changes. Once I started using synthetic they stopped doing that...
But, for me, the biggest advantage is that synthetic oil doesn't get consumed between changes in my two 5.4L trucks. These engines are known for consuming a couple/few liters in between changes. Once I started using synthetic they stopped doing that...
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20,000 miles is hardly broke in. No need for addititives just change oil and filter per schedule and use Motorcraft filter. The marketing for additives and the like is just that, Marketing. Use factory recommended oil and filter and dont look back.
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Hey Bridge, not trying to hijack this thread but I have had just the opposite with syn oil. Not dissing syn, I like it but every engine I used syn in consumed more not less. Actually Infiniti just replaced my M-35 long block with 25,000 miles. It started drinking syn at a qt per 1000. They replaced a $10,000 engine no charge.
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BTW, I can't find it now, but there is a site you can go to, type in your VIN and it will tell you all the work that has been done on your truck from Ford dealerships. I think it's 'myford.com' or something like that.
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My '02 E150 with 4.6 would use maybe 1/2-3/4 quart between changes (3-4k) with Motorcraft syn blend since it was new.
I got a bunch of Quaker State 5W20 full syn Torquepower for cheep (99 cents a quart for 24 quarts...) and over the last two changes, it has used almost ZERO oil. And I've pushed changes out to 6k miles on the full synthetic. (This is with 72k miles on the motor now.) When I run out of the full syn, I'll either look for more sale prices on full syn, or go back to Motorcraft syn blend.
Use Motorcraft filters; they work better than almost everything else and are inexpensive.
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Hey Bridge, not trying to hijack this thread but I have had just the opposite with syn oil. Not dissing syn, I like it but every engine I used syn in consumed more not less. Actually Infiniti just replaced my M-35 long block with 25,000 miles. It started drinking syn at a qt per 1000. They replaced a $10,000 engine no charge.
Synthetics tend to expose weaknesses in an engine. The thinner synthetics have a habit of getting by less than perfect piston seals and engine gaskets. This is why converting over to a synthetic at high mileage is not really recommended. The Syn will tend to "clean" the internals which causes a risk of "Throwing a Clot" of engine buildup and blocking an oil passage or severely clogging the oil filter.
With regard to the 5.4L, Ford considers consumption of a quart every 1500 miles to be within spec. The reason being all engines consume oil, which is essential for normal lubrication of the cylinder bore walls and pistons and rings.
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Again, what additives are in the Lucas oil that your motor oil does not have? If you cannot specifically name them or prove that they are doing that your motor oil cannot do on its own, I call BS... Your engine living a long time is not evidence--it may have lived that long "in spite of" the Lucas, not because of it.
Oh yeah, here's a test from bobistheoilguy that shows Lucas primarily helps make your oil into foam, not a good thing IMO. This does not say "stablization" to me.
What about Additives?
George
