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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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WOW, there a LOT of wrong answers in here.

That big tube towards the back of the carb coming from the secondary fuel bowl is nothing more than a fuel bowl vent; DO NOT HOOK A FUEL LINE TO THIS VENT!! There should be a vacuum hose hooked to this port that leads to the charcoal canister located on the passenger's side down low/under the battery. In your first pic, you can see a big hose hooked to the primary fuel bowl that goes to the charcoal canister. The canister is there for the gas fumes from the fuel bowls to collect and be burned by the engine for later.

Your carburetor has "side-hung" float bowls, so the single fuel line going to the primary fuel bowl is correct. If you look on the driver's side of the carb, you will see a fuel transfer tube feeding the secondary fuel bowl.

Only if you have "center hung" fuel bowls is when you will have two seperate fuel lines to feed the fuel bowls.

And your PCV line is already hooked up. It runs from your PCV valve on the passenger's side valve cover to the front of the carb down low. You can see it in your first tow pics, located under your primary fuel bowl.

Aside from secondary fuel bowl vent, and the hot air choke tubes missing, I don't see any missing vacuum lines, Chief.

That looks like the stock Holley 4180 emissions carburetor. This carburetor does not use a secondary metering block; it uses a metering plate instead.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
WOW, there are a LOT of wrong answers in here.

That big tube towards the back of the carb coming from the secondary fuel bowl is nothing more than a fuel bowl vent; DO NOT HOOK A FUEL LINE TO THIS VENT!! There should be a vacuum hose hooked to this port that leads to the charcoal canister located on the passenger's side down low/under the battery. In your first pic, you can see a big hose hooked to the primary fuel bowl that goes to the charcoal canister. The canister is there for the gas fumes from the fuel bowls to collect and be burned by the engine for later.

Your carburetor has "side-hung" float bowls, so the single fuel line going to the primary fuel bowl is correct. If you look on the driver's side of the carb, you will see a fuel transfer tube feeding the secondary fuel bowl.

Only if you have "center hung" fuel bowls is when you will have two seperate fuel lines to feed the fuel bowls.

And your PCV line is already hooked up. It runs from your PCV valve on the passenger's side valve cover to the front of the carb down low. You can see it in your 3rd pic.

Aside from secondary fuel bowl vent, and the hot air choke tubes missing, I don't see any missing vacuum lines, Chief.
Lariat 85 nailed it. You MAY have a busted diaphragm operating the secondaries, but more than likely not. The secondaries will not open unless you have a pretty good load on the engine. Punching it while it's setting still in a driveway won't do it.

How is it acting flooded? Does it blow black smoke out the exhaust when you floor it?

Is the big hose stuck under the EGR valve loose? If it is, it's prolly the one that is supposed to go on the back bowl vent. And plug the port over the choke heater. It's allowing dirt to suck into your engine.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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The red circle is the supply... Not the one you have circled in white.

I'll be deleting this image in a few days, sorry, don't want to clutter my albums.

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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Yup, But like I always stated, I ain't no carb. guru.
(And probably should of kept my mouth shut)

I know how they work, I understand the theory of operation, I've tuned many, But I don't have experience with A LOT of different carbs.

Thanks for setting me (us) straight!

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I would enjoy seeing a picture of the drivers side!
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-Enjoy
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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I found that the plug had came of this one i put a arrow to plug it and now it seems to be running fine.The breather hose in the front just goes know where will hook to canister.Does anybody know if the hose from distp is hook up right to the carp its the left of the one i drawed a arrow to.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
WOW, there a LOT of wrong answers in here.

That big tube towards the back of the carb coming from the secondary fuel bowl is nothing more than a fuel bowl vent; DO NOT HOOK A FUEL LINE TO THIS VENT!! There should be a vacuum hose hooked to this port that leads to the charcoal canister located on the passenger's side down low/under the battery. In your first pic, you can see a big hose hooked to the primary fuel bowl that goes to the charcoal canister. The canister is there for the gas fumes from the fuel bowls to collect and be burned by the engine for later.

Your carburetor has "side-hung" float bowls, so the single fuel line going to the primary fuel bowl is correct. If you look on the driver's side of the carb, you will see a fuel transfer tube feeding the secondary fuel bowl.

Only if you have "center hung" fuel bowls is when you will have two seperate fuel lines to feed the fuel bowls.

And your PCV line is already hooked up. It runs from your PCV valve on the passenger's side valve cover to the front of the carb down low. You can see it in your first tow pics, located under your primary fuel bowl.

Aside from secondary fuel bowl vent, and the hot air choke tubes missing, I don't see any missing vacuum lines, Chief.

That looks like the stock Holley 4180 emissions carburetor. This carburetor does not use a secondary metering block; it uses a metering plate instead.
Does this one go to the air clearer? The unplug one with the black circle
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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No, that is the "fresh air" supply for the hot air choke. There supposed to be a rubber tube coming from it and then a metal tube attaches to that and then that attaches to the choke stove on the exhaust manifold for the hot air choke.

There is no vacuum in this line, so leaving this unhooked should not affect the operation of the carburetor.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT 85
No, that is the "fresh air" supply for the hot air choke. There supposed to be a rubber tube coming from it and then a metal tube attaches to that and then that attaches to the choke stove on the exhaust manifold for the hot air choke.

There is no vacuum in this line, so leaving this unhooked should not affect the operation of the carburetor.
Thank you for all your help you have been a life saver.I am going to have to re build the carb it just does'nt seem to be get gas to the secondarys.I tried pully my 13' travel trailer today and when it goes to shift in to 3rd around 35 miles anhour it starts acting like it's not get gas does the same thing when there is no load on it.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtballer
Doyou mean this big tube in the rear.

The one in the just sits off to the side should i hook to the back?
that is the vent that is supposed to connect up to to a purge solenoid leading to the charcoal canister.check to make shure you are getting fuel to that secondary float bowl.with that vent being exposed to elements,you might have crap in that bowl keeping the float closed,of dirt blocking your passages to the venturies.

also it also looks like the hot air has been unhooked from the choke.make sure the passage leading to choke assembly is plugged or you will have a vacuum leak.
 
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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I found this on the autozone web site this is the 4180 carb correct.
 
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