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Old May 13, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Any discrepancy beween the front and rear wheels on a turn will be absorbed by the the open differentials ability to allow for varying wheel speeds.
Not true. The Superduty and Excursion transfer case is fully locked in 4x4, and has no internal differential.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Not true. The Superduty and Excursion transfer case is fully locked in 4x4, and has no internal differential.
Right! If anyone doesn't believe it, try driving in 4WD on hard pavement - and learn the hard way. (don't do it)
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Not true. The Superduty and Excursion transfer case is fully locked in 4x4, and has no internal differential.
I never said the t-case had a differential. All wheels act like a 2 wheel drive truck while locked in 4wd other the the u-joints as far as turning goes . Case closed for me on this.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Right! If anyone doesn't believe it, try driving in 4WD on hard pavement - and learn the hard way. (don't do it)
And that is because of the u-joints. I guess you guys aren't reading closely.............case closed for me.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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not true, not true, not true.................
 
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Old May 14, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
I never said the t-case had a differential. All wheels act like a 2 wheel drive truck while locked in 4wd other the the u-joints as far as turning goes . Case closed for me on this.
The way you said it, it sounded like that's what you meant.

And even if you didn't, what you said is NOT TRUE.

Originally Posted by EXv10
Any discrepancy beween the front and rear wheels on a turn will be absorbed by the the open differentials ability to allow for varying wheel speeds.
The front and rear differentials can not take up the difference between the front and rear wheels going around a turn.
 
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Old May 14, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
I never said the t-case had a differential. All wheels act like a 2 wheel drive truck while locked in 4wd other the the u-joints as far as turning goes . Case closed for me on this.
Originally Posted by EXv10
And that is because of the u-joints. I guess you guys aren't reading closely.............case closed for me.

Is the case closed for you? I'm not sure on this one.

 
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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Is the case closed for you? I'm not sure on this one.

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Old May 17, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Case re-opened

After doing some research I see that you guys are right about the rear wheels and the front ones not turning the same RPMs on a turn. They do not follow exactly the same arc and this is why some or all of the all wheel drive cars have some type of differential between the front and the back wheels. Mouse over green light to see demo......... Sucks to be wrong

HowStuffWorks "How Differentials Work"
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Gentlemanly of you to come back and say so. And it helps close the case for everyone. Thanks.
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
After doing some research I see that you guys are right about the rear wheels and the front ones not turning the same RPMs on a turn. They do not follow exactly the same arc and this is why some or all of the all wheel drive cars have some type of differential between the front and the back wheels. Mouse over green light to see demo......... Sucks to be wrong

HowStuffWorks "How Differentials Work"
Rep points for coming back and letting us know
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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ok update:

it seems that I was right and wrong. " and it looks like yall took the post and went WaCk0 "

when I tried it I was NOT in 4 wheel drv, even though the dash light said I was. it seems that there is a vac leak, somewhere or it takes MINE a few trys to get into 4 wheel drv.

however while in 4 wheel I was a bit surprised that the rear wheels would spin, " almost like NOT in 4X4 " on a gravel road. I own a landscaping co. and with the trailer connected and about 2 tons. is when I was testing it.

I figured that the front wheels would spin before the rear ones would.
I did get that. bucking and hard to steer while in 4x4.

once again thanks for everyone's reply, and I hope we all learned something.
I know I did
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Front and back are probably both spinning on one side but you don't realize it, (if you are locked in the front). Last winter I was on some ice on a back road and I thought I wasn't engaged in the front but it was so slippery I couldn't tell. (open diff). That's why I say that you can get on a gravel road, step on the brake and the gas, spin the tires for 5 feet and get out to look at the tracks or you can have some watch your front wheels for you as they spin (or don't).
 
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