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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Fully Synth Diff Fluid

My rear limited slip is a bit jittery and I've heard changing the fluid to a fully synth 75W-140 w/ the slip additive is the way to go. The stuff isn't exactly readily available, but I've been able to find Mobil 1 LS 75W-140 which claims not to need the slip additive.

Do any of you run the Mobil 1 LS 75W-140? It's about $20/quart. Did you still add that slip additive, or was it good to go w/o the additive? I wanted to go with Schaeffers, but they only sell it in a 5gal pail or a 55gal drum. No other vehicle I have takes 75W-140 gear oil, so that's a no go for sure.

About much fluid does the rear and front diff take?
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Mine came with the full synthetic in the rear and Dino in the front. Synthetic I used required the additive for the limited slip diff. Took about three quarts. look over the cover closely as Ford has a problem with these rusting through.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Here's a great write up for the Rear: Welcome to guzzle's Rear Differential Maintenance Web Page

And here's a great write up for the front: Welcome to guzzle's Front Differential Maintenance Web Page
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Good post Glenn. The only thing I can add is, Ford changed from 75w-90, to 75w-140 in the front.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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I've read Guzzle's write-ups for the axles. I can't seem to find anything, but Valvoline LS and Mobil 1 LS 75W-140 gear oil. Everything has the LS already in it and claims to meet Ford's specs.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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I have to do mine here shortly. But when I do, I'm getting the non-additive stuff because I want to put in my own. Too much friction modifier makes your LS diff an open diff. I think too many folks think it's the other way. I'm going to add an ounce at a time until it JUST stops chattering and that's it. May take 2 or all 4, but if I don't need all 4, I'm not adding it.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Mine doesn't seem to be chattering, but it feels like it's locking up upon startup while going around corners causing vibes throughout the truck.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
I have to do mine here shortly. But when I do, I'm getting the non-additive stuff because I want to put in my own. Too much friction modifier makes your LS diff an open diff. I think too many folks think it's the other way. I'm going to add an ounce at a time until it JUST stops chattering and that's it. May take 2 or all 4, but if I don't need all 4, I'm not adding it.
I did the same thing Joe. I ended up using 6oz instead of the 8oz that Ford told me to use. I put one bottle at first, then a little chatter/bump, then added 2oz out of the 2nd bottle and no more noise. I can spin all 4 tires in the back.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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I can spin all 4 tires in the back.
I can spin one all the way to OD. Don't know why Ford would put a pegleg rear axle in a Lariat 4x4. I need to find a good locking rear differential to keep my back tires even.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by miller_feed
I did the same thing Joe. I ended up using 6oz instead of the 8oz that Ford told me to use. I put one bottle at first, then a little chatter/bump, then added 2oz out of the 2nd bottle and no more noise. I can spin all 4 tires in the back.
Okay -- so yours took six ounces... Good to know!! I'll be ordering my '08 diff cover tomorrow. Need to get this done. I'm getting tired of cleaning gear lube off the garage floor.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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Ford now says that the synthetic 75-140 can go in both the front and the rear. I checked with ford before I did mine. Even though the book calls for different fluids front and rear, you can run the exact same. I recently replaced mine with the Valvoline 75W-140 front and rear. It says that it already has the LS additive in it, but several parts/service people have said that I may still need to add some. I think they may be right cause I still get a small amout of vibration/chatter when turning tightly on dry pavement. I figure I'll do 1oz at a time until I'm satisfied.

BTW Joe- Rick's dually has a Dana 80 and it takes more fluid than yours. So just cause he used 6oz of additive doesn't really mean much for you cause the rear ends are different.

Rick, what kind of fluid did you use?
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by strokersace
Ford now says that the synthetic 75-140 can go in both the front and the rear. I checked with ford before I did mine. Even though the book calls for different fluids front and rear, you can run the exact same. I recently replaced mine with the Valvoline 75W-140 front and rear. It says that it already has the LS additive in it, but several parts/service people have said that I may still need to add some. I think they may be right cause I still get a small amout of vibration/chatter when turning tightly on dry pavement. I figure I'll do 1oz at a time until I'm satisfied.

BTW Joe- Rick's dually has a Dana 80 and it takes more fluid than yours. So just cause he used 6oz of additive doesn't really mean much for you cause the rear ends are different.

Rick, what kind of fluid did you use?
I was about to tell Joe the same thing. I bought the Motorcraft synthetic from Ford.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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I was about to tell Joe the same thing. I bought the Motorcraft synthetic from Ford.
I was thinking you had a dually. No worries -- I wasn't going to dump in a whole bottle....

Thanks though -- someone else reading this may not have realized you have a bigger rear end.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mueckster
I can spin one all the way to OD. Don't know why Ford would put a pegleg rear axle in a Lariat 4x4. I need to find a good locking rear differential to keep my back tires even.
Yeah, you can can do the 1 legged burnout for a long way. Did you switch your back tires around after you left my house? I know your right tire has lots less thread then the left.

Originally Posted by Izzy351
I was thinking you had a dually. No worries -- I wasn't going to dump in a whole bottle....

Thanks though -- someone else reading this may not have realized you have a bigger rear end.
Joe, don't you know it's not nice to talk about another's rear end.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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I bought the Motorcraft synthetic from Ford.
Is that synthetic suppose to have the additive already in it? Or is it designed to add it?
 
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