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April sales report,

Dodge Avenger 1400 sold
Ford Fusion 18,000 sold

I think that pretty much tells the story.

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Stick a fork in Chrysler...they are done. Why would a supplier want to deal with them after they are gonna get screwed from the bankruptcy? Why not try and deal with a company that is paying their bills and does not have to be COD either?
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Several months ago, when Ford stock was selling for 2 bucks a share, I bought 2000 shares.

From the looks of things, I shoulda...coulda bought more.
I'm kicking myself for the small number of shares i bought at 1.88 a share....why didn't i dump ever penny i could find into it....

Originally Posted by quaddriver
Ford can build all the economy cars it wants to. The consumers however, at a $2.10 national average for gas, still seem to prefer trucks.

consumers also do not buy electric vehicles in any quantity worth mentioning (given that the cost to recharge at a 10cent/kwh is significantly more expensive)

and scndsn - I sure as hell hope yesterday was not '5/8' or Im truly screwed
I dont think thats the case at all....ford set a record for fusion sales last month....and cars are selling much better than trucks...

And secondly.....every report i've ever seen says electric cars would be much much cheaper to run than a gas vehicle....

Originally Posted by jimandmandy
April sales report,

Dodge Avenger 1400 sold
Ford Fusion 18,000 sold

I think that pretty much tells the story.

Jim
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha .... 1400??? seriously???
 
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Originally Posted by Ryan50hrl
I dont think thats the case at all....ford set a record for fusion sales last month....and cars are selling much better than trucks...
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not quite,

year to date as of May 1 Ford has sold 440140 vehicles.

Of those,
162315 were cars.
277825 were trucks.

As of the same date ford had 16% of the US market, compared to 21% for GM, and GMs cars slipped even further from trucks.

When all is said and done, I expect 2009 to have about 52% of the vehicles sold industry wide in the US be trucks. (consider that some heavy selling makers in the US, have little or no truck presence in the US)

Job scares and credit scarcity being equally applied to all vehicles, the tipping point seems to be fuel costs and virtually nothing else.
 
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Ford stock is at 6.08, down .16.

F: Ford Motor Company Stock Report | Quote & News
Closed today a 5.01 (-1.07) ouch.
 
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:43 PM
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I retired out of Fords Livonia Trans Plant and my oldest son works there and he's on the new 6 spd job and he says they've been bringing in new machinery for future production increases and adding a new shift. Plus, there's rumors of a new job coming in, building the trans for the Fiesta.
 
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fireball 440
Closed today a 5.01 (-1.07) ouch.
Lutz & several other GM execs dumped their remaining stock @ a buck sixty-one this week in response to not being able to come to agreement with bond holders in time for the June 1st bankrupcy deadline. That took GM to $1.15. Sad, very sad.

Ford on the other hand issued a bunch of new shares so investment banks (the same ones in trouble) could buy them up & inject new cash into Ford. Helps Ford, makes the troubled banks look better, but hurts the small investor. Cuts down on the dividend % that our shares eventually pay.
 
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:50 AM
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Lutz & several other GM execs dumped their remaining stock...
The words "rats" and "sinking ship" come to mind.

Jim
 
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
The words "rats" and "sinking ship" come to mind.

Jim

Another sinking ship that us taxpayers will be forced to keep afloat. I noticed that since Chrysler went into bakruptcy, I have not seen one ad from them, then saw yesterday that the fed is only letting them spend half of what they wanted to on advertising.
 
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I heard a radio ad today for a Dodge dealer offering a Dakota originally $26k for $16k new. This is from the one Chrysler Dodge dealer that is going to be left standing currently. The dealer 25 miles to the west closed last month and the dealer 15 miles to the east closes next month.
 
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
The words "rats" and "sinking ship" come to mind.

Jim
LMAO! That's like finding the safest seat on the titanic.

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Ford should make out well with Chrysler in bankruptcy and GM quickly headed that way. Justly or not, few will buy vehicles from a company in or on the verge of bankruptcy and that will increase Ford's market share considerably.

To say that cars like the Fusion and others won't work in $2 gas environment is rediculous. Lots of people want cars. It's evident by how many Camrys, Civics, and Corollas are on the road even when gas was $1. The problem was that the "big 3" weren't making anything that people wanted. Now they have better cars and people are buying them. I would like to have a car, but the wife wanted an SUV for kids. After they are grown, I would like to go back to a truck and a car.

As for Ford stock, I really missed the boat on that as well. But at the time that it was 1-2 dollars, it was a gamble anyway. I bought a little, made about 90% profit and got out. IMO now is not the time to buy as it's still close to the top of its 52 week moving average. I'll get back in around $3 if it goes that low. Of course I could be wrong again.

Mike
 
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The wife has a Focus. I like it. Very peppy. Sips gas. Comfortable interior.
My only complaint is she didn't get cruise control. I thought she agreed to get that, but she changed her mind.
Now she has to drive on the longer trips because I hate being on the highway without cruise.
 
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Originally Posted by ckal704
The wife has a Focus. I like it. Very peppy. Sips gas. Comfortable interior.
My only complaint is she didn't get cruise control. I thought she agreed to get that, but she changed her mind.
Now she has to drive on the longer trips because I hate being on the highway without cruise.
Did you only look at the fords? If not how did it compare to the others?
 


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