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Diesel vs. Gasser

Our company currently has the 6.4 l diesel F450 and are switching to the V10 F450s what issues / complaints do you guys forsee us having.
 
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A lack of too much torque?
 
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no we are tired of the diesels breaking down
 
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- Less low end torque, engine has to rev up higher to get same power.
- Less stink, less noise and vibration, hard to tell when it's running
- Can't use truck stop monster pumps, takes longer to fill tank
- Weighs a lot less, so doesn't sink as much on soft soil, stops faster, doesn't go through brakes as fast.
- Don't have to wait for glow plugs to heat up at start, less time to drink coffee.
- Routine maintenance doesn't take as long, have to get back to work sooner.
- No bonus cigarette breaks when ECU decides it's time to start a regen cycle right when you're parking.

That's about all I can think of...
 
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Copied from another thread, should help you. Great post.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7445914

Gas vs. Diesel is like Ohio St. vs. Michigan, Georgia vs. Florida, Yankees vs. Red Sox.
 
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your askin for a war here but if your company should be fine, if you get low enough gears on it maybe 4.88s, this is assuming these trucks are haulin some heavy loads but i figure thats why your getting 450s. you'll probably get better mpg from what i been hearing about the 6.4s mileage, but thats unloaded. v10 needs to run at higher rpms thats how its designed. its a good motor

another note i thought the 450 was only available with the 6.4 i didnt think you could get it with the v10
 
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no we are tired of the diesels breaking down
oh, thats gunna start a war here, hahaah...

 
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I have noticed that some townships and boroughs are getting rid of their diesels and buying v10's. Spoke with a Philadelphia city official and they also are going to the v10. My local borough no longer has diesel pick-ups of any brand.
As far as isssues there are none. Fuel mileage should not even be mentioned in a truck that heavy. As was mentioned earlier get the 4.88 gears.
As far as complaints, when it is brand new it will feel sluggish but at about 5,000 miles it will wake up, you will notice it.
Get in, put it in drive, sit back, enjoy the ride.
 
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no we are tired of the diesels breaking down
With my reply I meant that is what you'll be complaining about with the gassers.
 
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- Don't have to wait for glow plugs to heat up at start, less time to drink coffee.
The setup is different on the 6.4s, I don't believe you actually have to wait to start on those.

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- Routine maintenance doesn't take as long, have to get back to work sooner.
Yes and no.

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- No bonus cigarette breaks when ECU decides it's time to start a regen cycle right when you're parking.

That's about all I can think of...
That's why you get a tuner to turn that stuff off.
 
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Well you don't have to wait for a diesel to heat up if you plug it in before hand, but you have to get the diesel hot before it will combust, so how would the 6.4 not need glow plugs to heat it up first?
 
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The new injection systems on them, and prob the others, atomize the fuel into such a fine mist the glow plugs really just have to be on. Not so much pre-heated. It might not even be a mist, more like a fog.
 
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Originally Posted by Ford15926
Our company currently has the 6.4 l diesel F450 and are switching to the V10 F450s what issues / complaints do you guys forsee us having.
None.

The trannies and rear gears will last longer, because the guys who drive them things usually just put their foot to the floor and wait anyway

Seriously though, there should not be any issues.

The V10 is a proven workhorse that is very reliable when the oil is changed as recommended.
 
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The new injection systems on them, and prob the others, atomize the fuel into such a fine mist the glow plugs really just have to be on. Not so much pre-heated. It might not even be a mist, more like a fog.
Yep, it has to do with the injection system as to the specifics, that I don't know I just know it has to do with the new injection system.
 
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Our company currently has the 6.4 l diesel F450 and are switching to the V10 F450s what issues / complaints do you guys forsee us having.
What does your company do with the truck?
 


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