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I'm thinking/dreaming of the 37x12.5 Boggers for my little lightweight 94 6cyl Flareside.
I've driven it not quite 6,000 miles in the last two years.
How long would you all gander a set of these things would last me?
The only troubles I've had is spinning in a beaver damn (don't ask) and slicing a tire on a rock. Other than that I plow snow in the winter, but only mine and my parents driveway.
And I've got stock TTB 1/2 ton rigging underneath, so I don't get real rambuncious and usually stick to mud, snow, pavement and occasional tree roots.
I like the height vs width, and with 15" rims there's not a lot of tire choices in that size. Plus the aggresive tread is a real eye catcher
Whatchall think....suppose they'd last a few years so I could justify the expense?
Never done it, but I don't think plowing with boggers would work well. With no lateral support, as soon as you get on hardpack snow/ice, sideways you go. Also, you will have to watch the tree roots with any 37 and 1/2 ton equipment.
Plowing with boggers would suck. They are good in deep snow, but, any hardpack, due to the lack of siping, and the big huge lugs, they just spin and make ice.
Same thing, with half ton running gear, you will have to be very careful about tree roots et al, boggers flat out GRAB, and will break parts.
FWIW, the 37's do run short height wise.
I can't give you an accurate guage of tire life, but, I will say this, they are a very soft compound, and I keep pavement mileage on mine as minimal as possible.
I'm wondering if plowing with boggers would be worse than with a backhoe or front loader with ag or R4 tires. I realize those machines have a lot more weight than a truck so I don't know if it's a fair comparison. Do you have any hills to contend with? Flat ground shouldn't be much trouble. I've never plowed with a truck though, only heavy equipment. Edit: Forgot, boggers should give you about 10k mi. of use.
Boggers on snow/ice are far worse than a piece of equipment is, just not enough weight to make up for the poor traction.
Something light like an F150 really needs weight in the bed for traction with decent winter tires to push like it should(I almost never spin a wheel with my plow pig,) I'd hate to try it with Boggers.
Aggressive lug tires arent much good in winter conditions, but there are a few MTs that have some sipeing, like the TrXus MT or TSL SSR from Interco. You could also have a set siped at a tire shop. Or like most guys I know that plow snow, buy some tall ATs and a set of chains. With a set of 37s your going to need some low gears, or more power, or both depending on your set up now.
plowing snow with the 300 and 37s he will break something before he runs out of power to turn the tires plowing snow is a low rpm deal thats where the 300 grunts problem is 37s on a TTB can be bad especially pulling stumps in mud it might last
i would either grab some TSL radials and get em siped or just do TSL SSR haha
not to thread hi-jack but how do the TSL radials compare to the SSR in mud i was thinking of TSL and get em siped but the SSR is already siped so depending on how comparable they are in mud and price difference i will have to decide between the two
plowing snow with the 300 and 37s he will break something before he runs out of power to turn the tires plowing snow is a low rpm deal thats where the 300 grunts problem is 37s on a TTB can be bad especially pulling stumps in mud it might last
i would either grab some TSL radials and get em siped or just do TSL SSR haha
not to thread hi-jack but how do the TSL radials compare to the SSR in mud i was thinking of TSL and get em siped but the SSR is already siped so depending on how comparable they are in mud and price difference i will have to decide between the two
Alright this has nothing to do with your question but if i were you, i'd just go with th TSL bias ply, you might thing i'm stupid but i have barely any tread wear after probably 8 to 10,000 miles, and i'm 85% gravel and pavement, they are also 36in tires so most would think they should wear fast, so i wouldn't be all for the radials because they are more expensive
How come you giys are only getting 10K out of a set of boggers?
My 39.5's are over 20 K miles, and still have enopugh to go wheeling. My first 10K were with a spooled rear axle, and I towed trailers on several occasions.
I have also only rotated tires maybe three times in the entire 20K.
I will be the first to admit that boggers require some real power to turn, the are hard on parts, and are not very good on the hard packed snow, but I would not disregard tham for long term use with a vehicle that only sees 6K miles per year.
MIne have lasted a very long time, and on more than one trip has come home with trail pressures.
Different tires can get better mileages, but I am pleased with the amount of miles that I have recieved with my boggers..
You talking to me KO? I bought these brand new about three years now. I typically do not keep tires longer than a year or so. I swap out my 44's every season. These I kept to see how long they would last. I got over 40K out of a set of SSR's and really got my moneys worth.
My boggers are still soft, and show no signs of uneven wear. They are getting on the thin side now, and believe it or not still work pretty good in the mud. Less tire makes it real easy to spin em up.
As far as the OP goes, the bogger in this size tire is ot a real good one. First the above mentioned snow and har packed issues. I truly hate my boggers in the snow. I am sure you will too. AT any rate, the bogger in this tire size has lug spacing too close together to be a real winner. This means that you ony have a good looking tire and not the best performing tire. I am confident that I would take an IROK of regular TSL over the bogger in this tire size category.
Try to find a buddy with a set and bolt them up. You may like the way they look, but they are hard on parts, and may not be the right choice for your application.
I found myself that SSR's last while...i had a set on a 97 f-350 that went 30k esy before i sold them.
I noticed with my boggers the tread got harder over time...same with my 44 tsls i had for 6 years.
I would reccomend a tsl or iroc!
A 300-6 will not be able to make the boggers work like you want them to, plus they are very hard on parts! Not to mention the tsl or iroc will be much cheaper and last longer
I'd suggest going to 2 sets of tires considering the plow duty. For my plow pig, I run a studded 235/85R16 a/t for winter use, and 35" BFG muds for summer. Trying to plow with a mud tire is frustrating at best, and a set of decent A/T's on stock wheels is usually pretty easy and cheap to come by.
Boggers are definatley not an ideal choice for your truck considering drivetrain and power.
Something like a TSL Radial, SSR, or even a good old SX would be a better choice for you. But, only if you go to a dedicated set of winters. I know it's a bit of a pain, but, it's a heck of alot better than trying to work out a compromise.
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