are there any differences between the 2 years? mainly in the exhaust manifolds and intakes. im having a tough time finding a 223 exhaust manifold for my 1961 f-100,,,but have found one from a 1963 (c3te-9430). will they swap across?

 

Sorry you didn't get a quicker answer, I have 223 manifolds from both 63 and 60 hanging in the garage and they appear identical. You probly figured this out for yourself by now!

 

care to sell me one of those manifolds? ive gone through 4 alreadry trying to find 1 without a crack in it. i guess they were prone to cracking.

 

I am in the middle of a '60 project at the moment and plan on using one of them. If that works out and I am all set, I will gladly sell you one. However, house projects (putting in new wood furnace etc...) have overtaken my time as of late so I can't get back to the truck for awhile so it won't be right away!

 

sounds good. let me know asap when you can spare one of those exhaust manifolds.

 

I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I have a spare exhaust manifold, and intake for that matter, that I'd be willing to part with. I have both manifolds loose from the head, but not each yet, so I don't know what kind of shape the choke plate is in. I'd assume it's frozen up, they all seem to be frozen by now. I can look it over tomorrow and try to make sure it's not cracked anwhere. Where have you been typically finding the cracks?

Again, I'm not trying to invade on someone's deal, just trying to help out. I'm on the coast of Cal, so shipping may or may not be a factor.

 

No problem zacm, glad you jumped in. Someday, I will be ready to part with one of mine but not for a while. I sure wish I could get back to the truck projet and stay there! Shipping would indeed be a factor as I am in upstate New York! Mine were both frozen when I got them and with a lot of PB Blaster and much more patients, I got them back where they belong! It can take several days of spraying, tapping on them and waiting, but they will loosen up if you are gentle!

 

C3TE-9430- what?

C3TE-9430-A = C3AZ-9430-A = 223

C3TE-9430-C = C3TZ-9430-C = 262, not the same as a 223.

 

I see your posting is a couple years old, but did you find out where they typically crack? I am spending alot of time looking for one and supposedely will be reimbersed by the company where I damaged mine when I dropped into a huge pothole in their entry drive...I don't want to go to all the trouble of finding one (IF I ever do!) and finf it cracked, or subject to crackoing and go through the hassle all over again, and risk the company not backing the repairs again! I have found a header at Cilfford Performance and would probably go that route if the may be this mess aof cracking...please reply ASAP!!

Ric

 

I know your posting is old, but where is the cracking typically found? I am searching for a manifold and have nearly given up and looking now at headers...if I find a manifold, how concerned should i be of this cracking, because I am being reimbersed for repairs by a company (gas station) that I damaged my truck when i dropped into a pothole in their entry drive and don't want to repair and have this cracking problem to start over again. I doubt the company would back me if that happened!!

 

Ric, Sorry for the delayed response, didn't see this pop up until now.

I never really found out where the manifolds are typically cracking from. I have(had) two manifolds and both of them are/were in great shape, other than the usual surface rust and crud. I would assume people might have them crack from either: a) where the choke plate gets frozen and causes the manifold to overheat and crack...? or b) from living in extreme winter areas and they freeze and crack from a sudden thermal shock...? Not 100% sure on either case, just my best guess since I live at the beach and we don't get much snow, or use for a choke

I sold one of the manifolds way back when and still have the other one. If you still need a manifold (I realize this post is kinda old) I can clean it up and inspect it for cracks or damage.

I've actually found that the intakes seem to be more prone to a blowout from the exhaust gas rather than the exhausts. Both of mine have a leak in the same spot from the ex. gas blowing a hole in the heat riser part of the intake. Go figure.

 

I am still looking and curious if they swap, too!
have you heard an answer from anyone/anywhere yet?

 

What year did Ford bring out the 223 with the self adjusting rockers. Have any of you seen or read about it? I thought that was around 63. kotzy

 

The '63 I tore down did not have self adjusting rockers on it. They stopped making the engine in '64!

 

From what I've found out, the later car line had a sort of semi-adjusting valvetrain, while the trucks never got them. IIRC, they weren't the usual hydraulic lifters, but a weird rocker arm that was semi self-regulating. Don't remember if it was hydraulic itself or some other fashion, but I just remember thinking "well that doesn't look very helpful. I'll just stick with the reg. solid lifters and run the lash on them every once in a while".

As far as I know all the 223's will interchange between both intake and exhaust manifolds. There might be subtle differences in the carb linkage (on the intakes, obviously) and/or carb bases but the manifolds will all physically swap. Even easier on the exhaust side. The early(? or all, don't remember) 215's had a smaller port cross section, so there might be a bit of a mismatch port size-wise, but again, they will physically bolt on.

I would venture to guess the same thing for the 262. There might be a different part number due to port sizing or pipe hook-up location (rear dump vs. center dump, or some such change), but they should be capable of bolting up. Ford didn't change the basic architecture of the motor just for a limited availability, bored and stroked 223. Which is pretty much all the 262 was. They had a set of timing gears instead of a chain and a few other changes, but all-in-all, same engine. They all had the same dumb 10 port motor. I love my little engine, but really, WHO designs a 6 cylinder with 4 intake and 6 exhaust ports...