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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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E1se cylinder head

Hey guys I have a cylinder head with E1SE, 12, AA all on the under side of the head. Can anyone tell me how good this head is and what motor it is for. Here are some pics.











And can someone tell me what this port is for? Its really clogged up with carbon and junk and I was trying to find out what was causing it.


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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Offhand, it looks to be from a 360/390/460 (if it's a Ford head) and I'd suspect the
port is for EGR gases. Look for cracks (esp between the valves) and sunken
exhaust valves.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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I took the head off what is supposed to be a ford 302. I know there are alot of ford heads that aren't too good so I just wanted to see what I got.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Guys hated to have to bump this thread back up but if anyone knows anything on this head it would be great. I really thought some of you vets would be all over this one.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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How are you expecting anybody here to tell you much of anything by merely looking at
pictures? Perhaps if you were to fly somebody and their tools out to your place to inspect
it, then you'd know more. A knowledgeable engine builder needs to clean, measure &
inspect everything using various micrometers & dial gauges & other, specialized tools to
determine things such as valve stem to guide clearance and compare the readings to
OEM specs. About the only thing I can tell you about those pictures:

- It's obvious nobody changed the oil in that engine very frequently - look at all the gunk
built up in the valley & rocker arm areas.

- Two of the cylinders on that head were operating differently than the other two, though
it's hard to tell why from pictures. The two leftmost cylinders look reasonably good but
the two on the right have a black buildup and the valves are brown? What is that
build-up, carbon or oil? Is that rust on the valves? Or fuel? Or what? Is the head in this
condition because of leaking valves/valve guides or rings? Or something else?

If you're seriously considering working on this engine, take everything to a good Ford
engine builder, have him boil & inspect it, should cost about $200.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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he wants to know if it is a desirable head to have, such as the "D0ve" heads. thats all, not its condition. Sorry, i am not ale to help you out with it, but i bet a ford engine manual can tell you the specs on that particular head and you can tell from there
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Google is your friend.

Plenty of hits on E1SE.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Guys hated to have to bump this thread back up but if anyone knows anything on this head it would be great. I really thought some of you vets would be all over this one.
All I came up with is years 80-83
heres a link Ford Products 8 Cylinder
heres another one http://www.enginepartswarehouse.com/...talog/Ford.pdf
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Thanks guys I found out I pretty much have a 500 lb paper weight. I found out the motor is not a 302 but a 255 4.2L, that sucksa big one. I'm not gonna put my time and money into a pos that will get crappy gas milage and peak out at about 110 hp. So I guess I'm just gonna buy a short block and build a real motor. Any suggestions are welcome.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Don't waste your time on a 302. Do a 351W instead.

Better gas mileage and performance in the same size package and the same cost.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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That is what I was gonna lean toward but I was also gonna see how much bigger of a motor I can get for about the same money.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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You can get a 460 for the same amount up front but your wallet will quickly dispense of any cash that is laying around in it.

If it's just a toy then go for it. If you actually need to use it as a truck, stick with the 351W. You won't be sorry.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Don't waste your time on a 302. Do a 351W instead.

Better gas mileage and performance in the same size package and the same cost.
I'd like to know how a 351 gets better gas mileage than a 302.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Google has no parts catalog...I do.

E1SE-6049-AA =

E1SZ-6049-A .. Cylinder Head w/o Valves.

Or....

E1SZ-6049-B .. Cylinder Head w/Valves.

Fits: 1981/82 255's as installed in F100's and passenger cars (Mustang/Capri, T-Bird, Fairmont/Zephyr and etc.).
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Google has no parts catalog...I do.

E1SE-6049-AA =

E1SZ-6049-A .. Cylinder Head w/o Valves.

Or....

E1SZ-6049-B .. Cylinder Head w/Valves.

Fits: 1981/82 255's as installed in F100's and passenger cars (Mustang/Capri, T-Bird, Fairmont/Zephyr and etc.).
You're right Bill, no catalogs but plenty of info to tell you what it was.
 
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