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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Worn ball joints- oh no!!

Hello all,

I just had my truck in for state safety inspection this morning and they are telling me all four ball joints are shot. They showed me how they pryed up on the tire with a bar and the slop in each joint. They did say there is a limit of .040 but this looked more like .060-.125.

The truck has 65K and not used real hard. There is no lift kit but I do have All Terrain T/A's 285/75's on it. I also have a 1/2 mile long dirt/stone driveway that has some pot holes and such but otherwise it's street driven and I don't plow with it. I was wondering if this is normal wear?

2003 F-250 4WD 5.4L engine.

They wanted around $1000 to do the job with alignment for generic parts and $1300 for Moog joints. I thought that was totally out of line so now I'm trying to decide what to do. I called a local auto store and they only want $60 ea for the uppers and $90 ea for the lowers for Moog so right there I can see they were hitting me hard for the parts. I've done numerous ball joints on smaller cars but never on something this big.

Thanks for any and all advice!!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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I own a shop and we have replaced them in trucks with as low as 45,xxx miles, not sure why but they are a problem on the ford trucks. I also think their price is high, we normally charge around $550 for the cheap ball joints or around $600 for moog. Good Luck.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Yes, many 4X4 SuperDuty owners have needed to replace their balljoints, including me.

I've done numerous ball joints on smaller cars but never on something this big.
Many folks here have used this guide/photos, by our own RacerGuy to do the job in their driveway .... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/3...ll-joints.html

There are many folks here that can answer questions you have.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

(I don't get hung up on the Moog joints. I use NAPA premium parts, and I don't think I've heard of any fail. Its always the non-greaseable oe joints.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Word is the Moog are not as good as they were, made in China. Go with NAPA Premium Gold adn make sure they are greasable. I would say for a 2003, with a 5.4, thats about right wear for that year. 2005 and up seem to be a bit better, mine are at 55k miles and still good. Bet they will be done after the summer tow season and higher miles though.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Awesome thanks to everybody for letting me know my ball joint wear is normal. Thanks ironmine for positing the link to the procedure. I tried to search on ball joints but didn't get good results. I may just tackle the job myself now-great procedure from RacerGuy.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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My 05 F250 CC 2WD 28,000 miles has been in the shop for the last 3 weeks (or is it 4-I cant remember) due to a clanking noise coming from what sounds to me like from the front supspension area. From what I have read on this forum, It sounds like ball joints which is what I have mentioned to the dealer but so far he has 1) replaced the guard on the exhaust pipe directly under the rear doors, 2) replaced clips on the front brake pads and now a driveshaft is on the way. Will report back if this fixes it-I have my doubts but Im no Ford mechanic and I dont have the factory tools,personel or support surrounding me so I would think they know what it is better than me. I hope so.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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I just finished mine, 2000 SD 4x4. I replaced the wheel assembly also, and the seals.

it was a royal PITA. I'm sure if I had been better set up here at home it would have went smoother. I had impacts, stud removers, floor jacks and a vice, however it was a hard day.

also I think I broke my finger..

If some one would have done the job for me at 6 to 8 hundred I would have paid it.

Best of luck
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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the dealer called me today and said that my 04 with 46k needed all four replaced and that it was a little over $1000 dollars, but my extended warranty covers it with a zero deductible so it will not cost me anything, i guess that they will use ford parts.. i guess these trucks are so heavy that they just wear out quicker
 
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So, should I feel blessed or worried with my 05 250 and 93k on the clock, all original?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Yeah, same here. 106,000 and just had the front end aligned. They said the ball joints were fine. Mine is 2WD but still, good to know they're okay.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
Word is the Moog are not as good as they were, made in China.
This is either untrue, or I just received a batch of old stock.

Came in the mail today...
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Baja where did you order the moog joints?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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I got 'em from amazon.com. They had a good price and shipping was free. I was going to get the kit from powerstrokeshop but when I entered my address it showed $43.65 shipping!

Anyway, I bought the ball joints from amazon and the seals, o-rings, and needle bearings from FTE/PARTS-GUY.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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thanks for the info
 
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xr75kid
My 05 F250 CC 2WD 28,000 miles has been in the shop for the last 3 weeks (or is it 4-I cant remember) due to a clanking noise coming from what sounds to me like from the front supspension area. From what I have read on this forum, It sounds like ball joints which is what I have mentioned to the dealer but so far he has 1) replaced the guard on the exhaust pipe directly under the rear doors, 2) replaced clips on the front brake pads and now a driveshaft is on the way. Will report back if this fixes it-I have my doubts but Im no Ford mechanic and I dont have the factory tools,personel or support surrounding me so I would think they know what it is better than me. I hope so.
Not to hijack the thread but in an effort to point others to something that might not be ball joints...
You might check the sway bar isolator bushings on the axle. Mine wore out and gave me the most annoying rattle, till I figured out what it was. The other thing you could check is the bushings on the swaybar links. Those could be the source as well.

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