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From: Simi Valley, CA
It's been 12 years since I last looked these parts up.
There are two possible gears.
One is brass: D8BZ3E717A, one is plastic: E5FZ3E717A.
The only way to tell, is to take the cylinder out.
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There are two different ignition switches:
One was used before production date 3/88: E6FZ11572A (Motorcraft SW1744B) This switch also fits all 1981/87's.
One was used after production date 3/88: E8OZ11572A (Motorcraft SW1991B)
The production date is listed on the white Certification Label at the top-left.
There are two possible gears.
One is brass: D8BZ3E717A, one is plastic: E5FZ3E717A.
The only way to tell, is to take the cylinder out.
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There are two different ignition switches:
One was used before production date 3/88: E6FZ11572A (Motorcraft SW1744B) This switch also fits all 1981/87's.
One was used after production date 3/88: E8OZ11572A (Motorcraft SW1991B)
The production date is listed on the white Certification Label at the top-left.
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not sure what the sticker says on the exact production date. But if it is that it would have to be a plastic gear cause I dont think brass would be effected by sitting in the sun for years. The car been siting since 98 but has been cranked up every so often
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I sold 100's of those gears...it's the major reason for the problem you are having.
IMO, even the Houston humidity and heat wouldn't cause that plastic gear to strip..or melt.
I've been to Houston several times...among other things, you have the USS TEXAS there.
The TEXAS is the only surviving battleship to have served in two world wars.
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Two world wars, the Mexican conflict (where mexican`s were holding US sailors prisoners), ect. Yea shes been in service from when she was built in 1912 (commissiond 1913) and decomissioned in 1949 where she sat rotting away between 1949 and the 1980`s till Todd`s shipyard restored her hull.
But besides that the car was owned by my sister when new and it was to be my car to drive but its alittle hard for me to drive but the car never had starting problems. This just happened all of a sudden I charged the battery up to run the car and it did it. Thats why I was thinking maybe the linkage was off on the key switch to the ignition switch or the starter relay (solenoid as some call t) was killing the power from the wire that goes to the ignition system.
But besides that the car was owned by my sister when new and it was to be my car to drive but its alittle hard for me to drive but the car never had starting problems. This just happened all of a sudden I charged the battery up to run the car and it did it. Thats why I was thinking maybe the linkage was off on the key switch to the ignition switch or the starter relay (solenoid as some call t) was killing the power from the wire that goes to the ignition system.
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Two world wars, the Mexican conflict (where mexican`s were holding US sailors prisoners in VERA CRUZ), ect. Yea shes been in service from when she was built in 1912 (commissiond 1913) and decomissioned in 1949 where she sat rotting away between 1949 and the 1980`s till Todd`s shipyard restored her hull. I read about Todd restoring the hull plates.
But besides that the car was owned by my sister when new and it was to be my car to drive but its alittle hard for me to drive but the car never had starting problems. This just happened all of a sudden I charged the battery up to run the car and it did it. Thats why I was thinking maybe the linkage was off on the key switch to the ignition switch or the starter relay (solenoid as some call t) was killing the power from the wire that goes to the ignition system.
But besides that the car was owned by my sister when new and it was to be my car to drive but its alittle hard for me to drive but the car never had starting problems. This just happened all of a sudden I charged the battery up to run the car and it did it. Thats why I was thinking maybe the linkage was off on the key switch to the ignition switch or the starter relay (solenoid as some call t) was killing the power from the wire that goes to the ignition system.
On either side of the bridge are those deck covers. BANG...I hit my head on one side...didn't do it on the other!
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But you had to be careful and watch your head though. I spent most time below deck and such but I will make a post in the non auto related one and post the slideshow video I made its long but its photos of the Texas from 1913 to today basically.
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You obviously haven't looked at the North American parts content on a Toyota's window sticker recently. I suggest you do.
The North American parts content of a US assembled Camry is 77%, it's 67% for Tundra's which are assembled in Evansville Indiana and San Antonio TX.
In contrast, the Ford Fusion is assembled in Mexico, its NA parts content is 30%.
The profits go to Japan? That's hogwash, over 90% of the profits go to ToMoCo stock holders.
The North American parts content of a US assembled Camry is 77%, it's 67% for Tundra's which are assembled in Evansville Indiana and San Antonio TX.
In contrast, the Ford Fusion is assembled in Mexico, its NA parts content is 30%.
The profits go to Japan? That's hogwash, over 90% of the profits go to ToMoCo stock holders.
In contrast to your fusion claim, the E-series and crown victoria are near completely made here in the US with US parts. So that statement was "hogwash".
So basically, you are saying that if I buy a Japanese car from a Japanese car maker that the profits don't go back to Japan? That means the stock holders of toyota that are living all over the world are bleeding us dry? Sounds like grounds for a boycott to me.
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well out of all the participating dealerships i got placed in mazda/hyundai. i was kind of dissapointed that i didnt get put in ford but it is not concrete yet wether or not i work there. on the other hand im not really that bummed because the service magager seemed like a really cool guy to where the service manager at ford really wasnt that sociable. until i open my shop down the road i at least want a boss that i can have a good relationship with.
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92 F-150, if your training there they cant force you to work there. You can quit and go work somewheres else. They are not running a slave shop where you have to work there.
In the college tech courses I took, we had the CAP program (Chrysler Automotive Program or Performance cant remember he meaning of the P) but they donated new cars to train on but they stopped cause the school got a smartmouth and the new boss ran them off.
But regardless the imports have alot more complicated parts than Ford has. I did a engine on a Acura that 4 cylinder doesnt have a dampner but has two perfectly gear timed balancer shafts mounted under the crank shaft.
But ford has complications also such as that OHC engines. Those are a pain cause when you put the timing belt/chain on you have to line up each mark perfectly to time everything right. No longer is it simple and easy like the OHV with the centrally mounted cam that you just lined the two dots up on the gears and your done.
In the college tech courses I took, we had the CAP program (Chrysler Automotive Program or Performance cant remember he meaning of the P) but they donated new cars to train on but they stopped cause the school got a smartmouth and the new boss ran them off.
But regardless the imports have alot more complicated parts than Ford has. I did a engine on a Acura that 4 cylinder doesnt have a dampner but has two perfectly gear timed balancer shafts mounted under the crank shaft.
But ford has complications also such as that OHC engines. Those are a pain cause when you put the timing belt/chain on you have to line up each mark perfectly to time everything right. No longer is it simple and easy like the OHV with the centrally mounted cam that you just lined the two dots up on the gears and your done.
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never bought new mainly because new cars are cheaply built, over rated, ugly vehicles and I wont buy one. But doesnt change the fact that if I had to buy one I sure as hell wouldnt buy a import (they build mostly small cars that are way uglier than the domestics).
Filing for that is the fault of Obama. Obama as you said told them that they HAVE TO MERGE or they wont get any money and they will haveto file. Point is Obama shouldnt be telling automakers how to do their job when hes incompetent himself. He blaims bush still because all the money he threw at the problem (that others have said was a stupid idea) has done nothing but made things worse.
Obama could have given them the money and let them use it how they wish to stay afloat and let them do their thing. I mean hell Obama is giving us money down here for our ****ing light rail which is basically a glorifed transit train/trolley we had back in the 1900`s and did away with cause of the deaths (so far multiple cars have been hit by this silent trolley).
Either way though I think more needs to be done to afloat the big three over keeping the banks afloat. After all Roosevelt created jobs and fixed the economy by not spending money like Obama is. He got people work platning trees and building stuff and their pay was warm food. Why cant obama use his head and think of a way to resolve things over spending more money putting us more in debt.
But heres what you said.
"Stick to demestics? GM is close to bankruptcy, Chrysler will be fortunate to make it to May 1st."
You are basically saying dont buy domestic cars buy imports by saying that. If we did as you saidit would drive a nail in and end the domestic cars for sure.
Filing for that is the fault of Obama. Obama as you said told them that they HAVE TO MERGE or they wont get any money and they will haveto file. Point is Obama shouldnt be telling automakers how to do their job when hes incompetent himself. He blaims bush still because all the money he threw at the problem (that others have said was a stupid idea) has done nothing but made things worse.
Obama could have given them the money and let them use it how they wish to stay afloat and let them do their thing. I mean hell Obama is giving us money down here for our ****ing light rail which is basically a glorifed transit train/trolley we had back in the 1900`s and did away with cause of the deaths (so far multiple cars have been hit by this silent trolley).
Either way though I think more needs to be done to afloat the big three over keeping the banks afloat. After all Roosevelt created jobs and fixed the economy by not spending money like Obama is. He got people work platning trees and building stuff and their pay was warm food. Why cant obama use his head and think of a way to resolve things over spending more money putting us more in debt.
But heres what you said.
"Stick to demestics? GM is close to bankruptcy, Chrysler will be fortunate to make it to May 1st."
You are basically saying dont buy domestic cars buy imports by saying that. If we did as you saidit would drive a nail in and end the domestic cars for sure.
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And that's part of the reason why this country is dying financially. If we keep sending our money overseas, we eventually won't have any left.
I'm sure someone will say how the toyotas are made here and what not but that is pretty far from the truth. The most American made Toyota is the Tundra. It is ASSEMBLED in the US out of 85% JAPANESE parts. 100% of the profit goes to Japan. The funding needed to support the American assemblers jobs is a fraction of what is sent back to Japan.
They are slowly killing us and we need to keep our money here.
Yes, that was my angry rant for the night... LOL
I'm sure someone will say how the toyotas are made here and what not but that is pretty far from the truth. The most American made Toyota is the Tundra. It is ASSEMBLED in the US out of 85% JAPANESE parts. 100% of the profit goes to Japan. The funding needed to support the American assemblers jobs is a fraction of what is sent back to Japan.
They are slowly killing us and we need to keep our money here.
Yes, that was my angry rant for the night... LOL
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