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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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I want overdrive

i've got a 77 f150 4x4 with a bone stock 351 & a C6. NP205.

3.50 gears.

I want to pull lower RPM's at hwy speeds without comprimising my low end.

what's the best way to do this? is there a way?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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I only know of two ways to do it, 1. Buy a gearvendors unit, this is very expensive although someone on here claimed to be able to get rebuild units for half price but he never came back with a link. 2. use a newer computer controlled overdrive transmission, I'm not sure which one would work for your application.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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tricky part is mating the newer trans to my 351M & to my NP205.

or at least i think that's the tricky part??
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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off the top of my head and I am not sure on the drive shaft as I am not sure of the length but any AOD trans should bolt right up and work doesn't have to be computer controlled the only challenge will the kick down linkage and and gear selector if you have a column shift

edit: I missed the part about keeping the NP205 I am going to say it will still work just not sure off the top of my head
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Since the M is a big block 351 similar to the cleveland, and I am pretty sure the AOD was only offered on small blocks such as the windsor, this won't work. You need to get a company such as Lentech to custom build you an A0D or and E40D tranny, or buy a gear vendors from the research I have done. Either way, start recycling your beer cans cause its gonna cost some cash.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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no kidding, gear vendors unit is $3000

maybe i just have to transplant a windsor into the truck & build from there?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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I've been interested in this: Complete Overdrive Conversion for 78/79 Ford Bronco.html
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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man that's really cool but it still cost him 3500 to do it.

yikes!!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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yeah that is right the M is a big block forgot about that
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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That cost is also why my progress never made it past 'interested'. $3500 can buy me a lot of gas.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Did Ford ever make a lock-up C6?

My old D***e van had a lock-up torque converter that seemed to drop the RPMs a bit at highway speed...I just put a switch in the dash that let me turn the lockup on/off. Worked well and made a noticeable difference in my mileage.

I suppose you could do something similar if there is such a thing as a lock-up C6. Not sure how much of a difference it would make for you, though. Might be nice to have in 4WD. I have 3.00 gears and my 360 C6 seems to be loping at 55.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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how tall are your tires with those 3.00 gears?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Witty73
Since the M is a big block 351 similar to the cleveland, and I am pretty sure the AOD was only offered on small blocks such as the windsor, this won't work. You need to get a company such as Lentech to custom build you an A0D or and E40D tranny, or buy a gear vendors from the research I have done. Either way, start recycling your beer cans cause its gonna cost some cash.
This may be a little off topic but the M is not a big block. I cant remeber how many times ive stated that on here. Just wanted to clear up any confusion here,,,some say that since some of the bell housings are the same with some of the big blocks its automatically a big block. But this is wrong. The M code engines other wise known as the 335 Series were created to replace the 390 big block but were classified as small blocks. Your big blocks are the 420's 460 etc. But you also need to remember that big/small block is not a ford term, they designate there engines my series/families such as the 351M/400 being in the 335 Series.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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how tall are your tires with those 3.00 gears?
I'm running 225/75R15s, but mine is 2WD.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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that's just over 28" OD
 
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