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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Fuel gage troubles

Bought my "new" truck, a '91 F-150 XLT, 302, "cuse me, "5.0" long wheel base 'xtended cab with dual tanks, all for $500.

Guy I bought it from disclosed all kinds of small gremlins that I can handle for the most part, but this has me boggled.

Rear Fuel pump was changed, and the gauge quit working.
Checked plugs, secure.
Pumps comes on when key turned on. {both front and rear tanks}
Checked power to plugs.
Getting 8 1/2 volts on, counting from left, spot 2, 6 1/4 volts on spot 3. Spot 1 and 4 zero volts.
This is on both front and rear plugs.

Checked selector switch, voltage the same on corresponding wires.
Switch appears to work fine.
Haven't gotten to the gauge yet, but am wondering if I am missing anything.

Any ideas??
 
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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At the rear plug you should have a yellow light blue and a brown white. The yellow/light blue is the sending unit fuel level wire, and the brown/white is the pump power.

With the key in run, and the switch in the rear tank position, have someone watch the gauge while you ground out and unground the yellow/lightblue. The gauge should swing back and forth. If it does, the wiring, the switch and the gauge are ok, and there is something wrong with the sending unit.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Could this be a "grounding" problem somewhere in the wiring then?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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You have to do the test to confirm where the problem is.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ridgerider3
Pumps comes on when key turned on. {both front and rear tanks}
Both at the same time?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Both at the same time?
No, only one at a time as selected as the key is turned on.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Haven't been able to drop the rear tank again, but the lt blue w/yellow on the front tank, taking the plug off, the gauge goes to "max" full, grounding out the wire makes it go back to empty.
Where do i go from here?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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If the rear gauge quite when the fuel pump (FDM) was changed and you used the old sender I would say the sender was messed up when the FDM was changed.
If the whole unit was changed from the top plate down then I would say the unit has a bad sender and you need to put your old sender back on.
There are only two screws that hold the sender on,
Image of the unit (FDM):
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...veryModule.jpg

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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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OK. All this was done before I bought the truck. Would the rear sending unit knock out the front one also? 'cause neither one works, and that's where I am trying to go. I can't see how changing the pump in the back could make the front sender unit not work unless there is an electrical problem somewhere.
 
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OK. All this was done before I bought the truck. Would the rear sending unit knock out the front one also?
No because when one is connected through the selector switch the other one is disconnected.



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Originally Posted by ridgerider3
Haven't been able to drop the rear tank again, but the lt blue w/yellow on the front tank, taking the plug off, the gauge goes to "max" full, grounding out the wire makes it go back to empty.
Where do i go from here?
If your front tank won't read, the above test results tell you the gauge, the switch, and wiring are ok, and there is something wrong with the sending unit in the front tank.

Do this same test with the rear tank, and if it does the same thing(the gauge moves back and forth), then the gauge, the switch and the wiring to the rear are ok, and there is something wrong with the rear sending unit.
 
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