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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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smokie starts

my 93 factory idi turbo sends out a fair cloud of blue smoke when starting. It smells alot like diesel. Would this be a sign of a leeky injector? The truck also uses alot of oil, I cleaned the cdr, but no change, it looks like it is the original with 330,000 km on the motor. I ordered a new cdr so I hope that this slows the oil useage. But I fear that the motor may be just worn out.
Does a worn engine use oil like a gas on does?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Does it start "rough" if so then glow plugs might be going south. And what do you consider a lot of oil? Diesels are noted to use oil especially older ones like ours. Mine uses around 1-2 qts per oil change.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Could be valve seals smoking at start up this does not usually use a lot of oil though.
Have you cleaned your cdr every couple oil changes?
I'm thinking your around 200,000 miles properly maintained you should have a few more good miles to go.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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no i am talking about 3-4 gallons before oil change.... looked today seems to be alot of oil in the intake. could be the glow plugs, I think that I might replace the injectors anyways.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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If your using (not leaking) 3-4 gallons of oil between normal changes you have much much deeper problems than injectors or glow plugs.

Unless you go a hundred thousand miles between oil changes.

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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If there is a LOT of oil in the intake you cdr is not functioning properly.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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Even with a bad CDR it won't eat that much oil will it??

-Enjoy
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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I wouldn't think so but not sure. That is about the only way it can get in the intake unless it is super wore out.

It will get enough to cause the rear two cylinders problems though.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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I'm thinking multiple issues.

Take an awful lot of CC pressure to blow that much oil up the CDR.

But thats a guess from me, I don't have much experience with the IH/Ford.

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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Yea I know but from what I gather everything working like it should it heats the rear cylinders more than the others. Seems like I read one time that was one of the problems associated with head gasket failures in the na engines. I'm with you it seems like a lot of oil.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:59 AM
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Thats true!

As you know Diesels burn oil pretty good, Too good sometimes, ever see one run away on it's own oil!

-Enjoy
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:13 AM
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Yep Cat claims they tested the 3406s at 4000 rpm but I seen one run way faster than that before the pistons and the valves got real friendly, makes you want to run.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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Want to run, Heck I did run!

My moms dad is missing half his face from a clutch disc on a run away, he was lucky to have lived from the injury let alone the medical technologies at the time.

I grew up seeing that face, still do in my mind!

-Enjoy
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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I jumped in the cab to try to shut it down when the rpm started climbing when I couldn't killit I decided I was in the safest place.

Saw a 671 that a guy laid over one time and didn't kill it by the time I got there I decided it wasn't worth trying to get to the emergency kill on it.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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Thats where he was at .. In the cab!

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