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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Intake manifold ???????

I foumd a 428 to put in my 65.It has the intake taken off.It is the original.I can take it or leave it.
Whatcha think? original or edelbroke
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Aftermarket will save weight and probably increase HP. Don't know which one to suggest, you may try the engine forum.

later
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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If it is a CJ intake, then I'd take that one. The stock 428CJ was apparently a very good intake that outperformed many of the aftermarket aluminum ones. You would have to research the casting number to verify what it is. Otherwise, yeah, the lighter the better, IMO.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Isn't the original 428CJ intake a spreadbore for a quadrajet? I may be confused on the CJ's...if it is though, and you don't have the original carb, you better get on ebay and price one, cuz that is the only quadrajet that is gonna make that thing run right.


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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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Isn't the original 428CJ intake a spreadbore for a quadrajet? I may be confused on the CJ's...if it is though, and you don't have the original carb, you better get on ebay and price one, cuz that is the only quadrajet that is gonna make that thing run right.


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I just ran over to ebay, No "CJ" intake were spreadbore.Wish they were
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Well, the greater question then will be, what intake do you have? ANd do you have the funds to lay down for an aftermarket piece?


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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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1966/67: 390 4V intake manifold is the same as a 410 or 428.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Bill there is some talk on the other site about intake manifolds, saying the 428CJ intake was the best stock offering, followed by the "T" stamped intake, then the "S" stamped ones, where the carb surface is slightly taller. I'm not sure on exact casting numbers but they were saying the early (non-CJ) manifolds were the best (followed by CJ), I'm guessing originally on a 4v T-Bird probably '63,'64? So were there three different 4v FE intakes used by Ford or is this a pandora's box of many variations?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by modeleh
Bill there is some talk on the other site about intake manifolds, saying the 428CJ intake was the best stock offering, followed by the "T" stamped intake, then the "S" stamped ones, where the carb surface is slightly taller. I'm not sure on exact casting numbers but they were saying the early (non-CJ) manifolds were the best (followed by CJ), I'm guessing originally on a 4v T-Bird probably '63,'64? So were there three different 4v FE intakes used by Ford or is this a pandora's box of many variations?
I'd need the ID numbers off the manifolds before I could comment on which is best, since the parts catalog don't list these numbers.

The Master Cross Refernce Catalogs do list these numbers, then once I get the actual part number, I can go back to the parts catalog to see which is which.

C6AZ9424N was used on 1966/67 390/410/428's. The 428 was introduced in 1966.

The 1963/64 390 manifolds are not practical because there's a hole for the oil fill tube (the valve covers on these cars were rounded without oil cap holes), and it takes the larger in diameter thermostat ppl have a tough time finding today.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Interesting, I didn't know that about the thermostat on the early 390s.
I guess the CJ428 was made from late 68 until 71 or so? I think I remember something about Mustangs being available with the Cobra Jet half way through the 68 model year. Regardless, I'm sure the stock manifolds are rare as hens teeth and worth their weight in gold. I have also heard of a 428 Police Interceptor manifold, I'm guessing these would have been available on the '66 Galaxies? As a side note was the 410 a Mercury only engine?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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FE intake tech in this thread:
Slick 60's :: View topic - 4V carb/intake for 352
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by modeleh
Interesting, I didn't know that about the thermostat on the early 390s.
I guess the CJ428 was made from late 68 until 71 or so? I think I remember something about Mustangs being available with the Cobra Jet half way through the 68 model year. Regardless, I'm sure the stock manifolds are rare as hens teeth and worth their weight in gold. I have also heard of a 428 Police Interceptor manifold, I'm guessing these would have been available on the '66 Galaxies? As a side note was the 410 a Mercury only engine?
410: 1966/67 Mercury Park Lane only.

Why would Ford even bother to offer the 410 on these cars, when the 390 was standard, and the 428 was an option?

428 CJ: 1968/70 Ford: Mustang/Fairlane/Torino // 1968/70 Mercury: Comet/Cougar/Montego.

C6AZ9424H .. 4V Aluminum Intake Manifold / No Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

Original Ford applications:

1966/67 Galaxie/LTD 428 P/C.

1968/70 Galaxie/LTD 428 P/C with T/E & C6 before 12/02/1968 (after this date, the manifold is cast iron).

1968 Mustang 427 with T/E & C6.

P/C = Police Cruiser // T/E = Thermactor Emission (smog pump)

btw: Are you posting on one of those autoblog sites?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
410: 1966/67 Mercury Park Lane only.

Why would Ford even bother to offer the 410 on these cars, when the 390 was standard, and the 428 was an option? Seems dumb alright.



btw: Are you posting on one of those autoblog sites? No, sometimes I b.s. over at slick60s.
Thanks for the good info again.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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The stock iron CJ intakes are easy to find if you know where to look. Some can get expensive depending on the date code. But most are reasonable. C8OE-9425-C is the most common casting out there to find.
 
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