making a 250 a 350
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making a 250 a 350
What all would be involved in making my 250 a 350? I am asking because I would like to haul more in it. Is it just simply 350 springs and axles? I wonder how my title would reflect that if it was done.
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in md, you take the truck with it's new parts installed, to the mva. the inspector looks a the truck, then aproves, or dissaproves the new gvw. they will only let you go 2,ooo lb over what your rating on the door sticker reads. you may want to have a trailer registration with you, then you can combinate your gvw to a gcvw [gross combinated viehicle weight]
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from my brief study (checked 2 f350's and one F250 i think) 250 is rated to haul 1500 lbs and 350 is 2000 acording to the door stickers. In WV you just pay for the extra weight on your tags, I think I'm tagged for 18 or 20K
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Seriously, 2500lbs in the bed of my 83 F-100 crushed the bearings.
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Seriously, 2500lbs in the bed of my 83 F-100 crushed the bearings.
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I nearly bought an 82 F350 last year & leading up to that, I researched differences & specs pretty hard.
The GVWR's vary on both. The 83 F250 I ended up buying, has a semi-float Dana 60 & a GVWR of 7300lb (some were even lower), but others commonly go to 8800lb from mid-85, with Sterling's & Dana 70's; F350's go up to 10,000lb.
I think it just comes down to rear springs/axle & matching front hubs. I guess brake hydraulic components must also vary.
AFAIK the frames are no different (2WD vs 2WD), apart from wheelbase variations, & the width difference of the chassis/cab version.
The GVWR's vary on both. The 83 F250 I ended up buying, has a semi-float Dana 60 & a GVWR of 7300lb (some were even lower), but others commonly go to 8800lb from mid-85, with Sterling's & Dana 70's; F350's go up to 10,000lb.
I think it just comes down to rear springs/axle & matching front hubs. I guess brake hydraulic components must also vary.
AFAIK the frames are no different (2WD vs 2WD), apart from wheelbase variations, & the width difference of the chassis/cab version.
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If you subtract the actual vehicle weight from the gvw I believe you will come up with 1000lbs for 1/2 ton truck and 2000 for 1 ton. My sticker says 10000 lbs gvw and the truck weighs 8k. My friends 06 or 07 f350 (IIRC) says 11k gvw and his weighs 9k empty
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watch out, ford played games with the gvw ratings, I have a 2002 f250, rated at 10,000, and a 2003 f350 rated at 10,000. the salsman told me that these 250's were neibghorhood friendly, as trucks over 8,000 lbs are restricted from some areas.
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I thought this too. A 1/2 ton truck can haul 1000 which is a half ton. But I was corrected when someone brought up some specs(which I can't seem to find) which show Ford rated the 1/2 ton pickup to haul more than 1000 lbs. I will see if I can hunt it up.
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My 82 F-250 4x4 is rated 7400lb GVWR, 3305lb front and 4660lb rear I call it a light 3/4 ton because it has the semi-float dana 60 rear and a 44 front it had a 4" lift on it when i bought so i don't know how many leaves it had. My 82 F-350 4x4 is rated at 9100lb, 3920lb front 6250lb rear it has two thick front leaves and 5 in the rear with an overload. Only thing i've noticed different between the two is the ton has a dana 50 front and a 61 rear, sway bars front and rear and a bigger brake booster
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The GVWR on an F100 is 4700 or or 4750lbs, my 81 is the prior, the 82 the latter. A reg cab Flareside with no options and a 300/manual weighs about 3500 or so. Subtract the weight of passengers and fuel from that and you're probably in the 750-800 lb capacity range.
That said, you could stick one in the bed of a 2wd F250 HD(8600 rated) with a W/manual that weighs about 5300 and you'd just barely be over GVWR. LOL
As for an F250HD(being a Diesel, that's what the OP's truck is) VS a 350, the only real difference on a 4x4 is the front axle after 85.5, and the rear block, the F350's got the D60 in 85.5, all 80-85's had the D50, which was an option on the 250's(standard on ex cabs after 84 tho)the overloads were available on the 250's also. The rear block is what makes the difference in level load carrying capacity, and ride height, it's 2" taller on the F350's. Frame is the same, and on a SRW truck, so are the axles and the rear brakes(12x3 rear drums) Front brakes are pretty much the same on all the F250/350's, same big rotors and dual piston calipers.
2wd's while I'm not that familiar, I'd imagine are also very similar.
That said, you could stick one in the bed of a 2wd F250 HD(8600 rated) with a W/manual that weighs about 5300 and you'd just barely be over GVWR. LOL
As for an F250HD(being a Diesel, that's what the OP's truck is) VS a 350, the only real difference on a 4x4 is the front axle after 85.5, and the rear block, the F350's got the D60 in 85.5, all 80-85's had the D50, which was an option on the 250's(standard on ex cabs after 84 tho)the overloads were available on the 250's also. The rear block is what makes the difference in level load carrying capacity, and ride height, it's 2" taller on the F350's. Frame is the same, and on a SRW truck, so are the axles and the rear brakes(12x3 rear drums) Front brakes are pretty much the same on all the F250/350's, same big rotors and dual piston calipers.
2wd's while I'm not that familiar, I'd imagine are also very similar.
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