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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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well i started up my truck today.. I had my 460 rebuilt and all new internals put in. I added water pump, intake, valve covers and the usual goodies. It fired right up and sounded sweet for about 20 seconds then it made a sudden squak and then quit. It can be turned over but its tight. Before we started it i took an old dist. and made sure i was getting oil up top and i was. I didnt do anything to the internals of the motor.... any ideas of what happened???????
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Hate to ask, but do 460's use that damn hex shaft drive for the oil pump, that can come out of the pump when you pull the dizzy?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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I'll just make a positive note, (even though it seems dumb)
20 seconds seems pretty quick for the motor to size, with all the assy. lube and what not. but the alternatives aren't much better
I wish you luck...........
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Hate to ask, but do 460's use that damn hex shaft drive for the oil pump, that can come out of the pump when you pull the dizzy?
thats only if the shaft retainer is put on wrong, or not installed.

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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about the only thing I can think of is rings too tight..

20 seconds you should still have had oil on the lifters/cam/crank..

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Hum, to bad, hope it never happens to me, but (always a but) if it did after swearing and thinking, I think I would start by pulling the plugs (easier to spin) and either a mechanical oil pressure gauge at the sending unit outlet port or just removing the sender and spinning it to see if you have oil pressure / oil, if no pressure the lifters will not work (eventually), if pressure then plan “B”, I just don’t have one right now.

Part two: Maybe lube/oil inside the cylinders and restart?
 

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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Are you running a high volume oil pump? If so I would suggest that you pull the distributor and check the gear on the bottom to make sure it is not stripped.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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Another possibility is it has spun a bearing , were the tolerances checked ?
 
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Are you running a high volume oil pump? If so I would suggest that you pull the distributor and check the gear on the bottom to make sure it is not stripped.
good idea.. I bought a HV pump, but decided to go back to stock.

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Another possibility is it has spun a bearing , were the tolerances checked ?
hopefully his engine shop will honor their work, like the one that rebuilt mine and didn't clearance check the valves.

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Are you sure it's seized, and didn't just run out of gas? or an ignition wire didn't break? New engines can be very tight.
 
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Well, im kind of at a loss of where to start. It was a new billet distributor so i know it was fine, the oil pump was stock but also new. I say 20 seconds but that is very generous. Im thinking spun a cam bearing or something. Its not locked up i can still turn it from the crank but its tight. I talked to the machine shop and first am on monday we are gonna check it out and go from there. Ill let yall know the outcome.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Well, it's gonna be tight - very tight, and it's gonna run hot - very hot for the first 100 miles or so.

Have you tried removing the plugs and trying to squirt some ATF in the cylinders and turn it with a breaker bar to see if there's "unusual resistance"

Also, don't assume new parts are good - I had two ignition "new parts" that were bad right off the bat - very frustrating to troubleshoot.


Question, did you get far enough on your initial run to "Break in" the cam - the 20 minutes on the first start-up?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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If it still cranks over with the starter I would guess its not too tight. Then if it doesn't fire, its the proverbial spark and gas thing.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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The starter will turn it over i just didnt want to push it. The motor only ran for about 10 seconds total.
 
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