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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Are Americian ones in both mph and kms?
Ive got a bunch of clusters and Im trying to figure out which ones to Ebay.
For the 1977 and later, with 85 MPH/130KPH speedos, yes they are.

1973-1977 Speedometers with 100 MPH, are just in miles per hour.

I refer you to post Six on this thread for more information, on the speedometers.


Remember, just because the speedometers are the same for some years, does not mean the Cluster itself will swap, 1973-1979. because it won't.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermafenser
See my initial post in the thread titled "Speedometer" that was made here recently.
Post the link ,Im not using this crappy search its almost impossible to find anything with it.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
For the 1977 and later, with 85 MPH/130KPH speedos, yes they are.

1973-1977 Speedometers with 100 MPH, are just in miles per hour.

I refer you to post Six on this thread for more information, on the speedometers.


Remember, just because the speedometers are the same for some years, does not mean the Cluster itself will swap, 1973-1979. because it won't.
Why wont they swap?
Ive swapped a few and never had a problem?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinford
Post the link ,Im not using this crappy search its almost impossible to find anything with it.
No problems using the search.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7331031 here is the post I made.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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That's because you were lucky, Vinford.

The Cluster backs and circut boards a quite different through the years, and there is differences between full gauges and idiot lights.


What is and is not compatible through the years.

Printed Circuts: 6 different ones.

A: 1973-1974 with gauges
B: 1973-1975 w/ Idiot Lights
C: 1975 w/ Gauges
D: 1976-1979 w/ Guages
E: 1976-1978 w/ Idiot Lights
F: 1979 w/ Idiot Lights

Cluster Backs:

A: 1973-1974 W/ Guages
B: 1973-1975 W/ Idiot Lights
C: 1975-1979 W/ Gauges
D: 1976-1979 W/ Idiot Lights


The Econoline Vans 1975-1991 also have clusters that will fit 1975-1979 trucks. Just match the numbers on the printed circut to the ones on the truck you are replacing and it will swap out. do not mis match the printed circuts and numbers or malfunctions will result.

I would post the part numbers, but I know they are outdated. (so what would be the point? ) Numberdummy can give updated part numbers if needed.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Right I knew guages and lights dont interchange , but Ive always changed guage to guage.
I like the silver ones better than the black and ive changed a few.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinford
Right I knew guages and lights dont interchange , but Ive always changed guage to guage.
I like the silver ones better than the black and ive changed a few.
Right but that's not the only difference. Just to clarify, if I wasn't clear.

You can't put a 1979 gauge cluster in a 1973 with gauge cluster or vice versa. They won't work.

If you look at the chart I made above. Line "A:" is only compatible with the years in Line "A". etc... etc...

But if you got that part of what I'm trying to say, then sorry.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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1975/79 F100/350 & Econoline Cluster Backs / 1978/79 Bronco

Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
The Cluster backs and circut boards a quite different through the years, and there is differences between full gauges and idiot lights.
What is and is not compatible through the years.
Printed Circuts: 6 different ones.
A: 1973-1974 with gauges
B: 1973-1975 w/ Idiot Lights
C: 1975 w/ Gauges
D: 1976-1979 w/ Guages
E: 1976-1978 w/ Idiot Lights
F: 1979 w/ Idiot Lights

Cluster Backs:
A: 1973-1974 W/ Guages
B: 1973-1975 W/ Idiot Lights
C: 1975-1979 W/ Gauges
D: 1976-1979 W/ Idiot Lights

The Econoline Vans 1975-1991 also have clusters that will fit 1975-1979 trucks.
Do not bother looking at any 1975/1980 Econoline, 1978/79 Bronco or 1975/79 F100/350 because more than likely, the cluster backs will be the original CRAP!

I would post the part numbers, but I know they are outdated. (so what would be the point? ) Numberdummy can give updated part numbers if needed.
In 1981, Ford replaced the cluster backs that were made from a composition material that turned to dust, with hard plastic cluster backs.

Here's the info:

E1PZ10848A .. Cluster Back / Use with Gauges / Found in 1981/91 Econolines.

Fits: 1975/79 F100/350 / 1975/80 Econoline / 1978/79 Bronco.
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E1PZ10848B .. Cluster Back / Use with WARNING Lights / Found in 1981/86 Econolines.

Fits: 1975/79 F100/350 / 1975/80 Econoline / 1978/79 Bronco.
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The part numbers are important because...

DENNIS CARPENTER OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC (704-786-8139) has:

100 E1PZ10848A // 50 E1PZ10848B

These are Genuine Ford Parts, as Carpenter bought all Ford had left.
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GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 6 E1PZ10848A = 800-543-4959 (513-731-3304).

(sigh) This is at least...the 10th time in two years that I've typed this same cluster back info here on FTE.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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The Econoline Vans 1975-1991 also have clusters that will fit 1975-1979 trucks.
Do not bother looking at any 1975/1980 Econoline, 1978/79 Bronco or 1975/79 F100/350 because more than likely, the cluster backs will be the original CRAP!
Very good point! The Dreaded Cluster Rot Syndrome...
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Are the 100MPH ones rare?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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No, the 100mph are more comon than the 85 MPH one.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
No, the 100mph are more comon than the 85 MPH one.
Oh, i heard that the 100MPH ones were rare, i guess i heard wrong. Thanks!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Well, it depends on the circumstances. To replace one it could be hard to come by because it's obsolete.

The 100 MPH speedo was used for 5 model years, of F-series, 1973-1977, and the 85 MPH speedo was only used for three. 1977-1979. So in that respect, the 100 MPH speedometer is more comon.

However the Econoline used the 100 speedometer for aproximately 3 year models, and the 85 mph speedometer for aprox 14 year models so much longer than the F-series.

So there is definately more 85 speedometers avaliable.

It depends on the point of view and how you look at it.
So it depends on your point of view.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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AFAIK, there is no place you can download parts catalogs, but hipoparts.com sells Ford parts catalogs on CD's.
AFAIK (= as far as I know) AFAIK? Isnt this the guy who posted "If you aren't sure, you shouldn't post"?
Anyway, I have one that was not on NumberDummy's list:
It goes to 100mph and 160kph


 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgasrickshaw
AFAIK (= as far as I know) AFAIK? Isnt this the guy who posted "If you aren't sure, you shouldn't post"?
Anyway, I have one that was not on NumberDummy's list:
It goes to 100mph and 160kph


[IMG]http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu51/bgasrickshaw/IMG_0075.jpg[IMG]
That's not even factory.

Someone put a sticker over the original face for the metric conversion.
 
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